Ray Rogers Shroud of Turin Fraud on Tonight (Discovery)

12/14/2008 | Soliton

[the invisib1e hand]

11. If ray rogers had just bought an ‘o,’ he might have attained infamy in a much more honorable and useful way.

[Soliton]

2 true

[ChetNavVet]

How many true Christians faith would be shaken if the shroud is dated less than 2k, or that it’s a hoax?

Answer, none.

[Soliton]

How many true Christians faith would be shaken if the shroud is dated less than 2k, or that it’s a hoax? Answer, none.

Many in the Church were afraid that it would. That's why they perpetuate the hoax.

[Soliton]

Shroud ping

[Alex Murphy]

How many true Christians faith would be shaken if the shroud is dated less than 2k, or that it’s a hoax? Answer, none.

You haven't been on some of the threads that I have!

[WorkingClassFilth]

Agreed. A scrap of cloth does not make or break the nexus of human history.

[ChetNavVet]

“Many in the Church were afraid that it would. That’s why they perpetuate the hoax.”

And now thier stuck with it, damed if they do, damned if they don’t. Mayhaps that’s why the thing cought fire once before, someone thought it should go out that way to avoid future scrutiny.

[brytlea]

Most Christians I know believe it is a hoax anyway, since Jesus wouldn’t have been buried in one single shroud (and in fact the Bible I think supports that assertion).

[ChetNavVet]

The coverup, and not the crime is worse for the church. When I hear about the image of Jesus on toast, or a fountain that bleeds, I can’t help but think it gives ammo to the atheiest types. Now if Obama says he saw Mohammed on his waffle, That’s a sign we can all belive in...

[Soliton]

And now thier stuck with it, damed if they do, damned if they don’t. Mayhaps that’s why the thing cought fire once before, someone thought it should go out that way to avoid future scrutiny.

It has been in fires more than once.

[M Kehoe]

OK, the Shroud is a fake.

No matter, I would still die for my faith.

Kinda makes the whole controversy moot, doesn't it?

5.56mm

[Soliton]

Most Christians I know believe it is a hoax anyway, since Jesus wouldn’t have been buried in one single shroud (and in fact the Bible I think supports that assertion).

Watch the show on Discover Channel tonight at 10:00. They will mention none of the facts. The whole "invisible patch" hypothesis was suggested originally by a duo of a defrocked priest and a registered nurse that specialize in pyramid power and spontaneous human combustion.

[Soliton]

and in fact the Bible I think supports that assertion

You're right. John mentions a face cloth too.

[count-your-change]

How can infamy be honorable? Roy Rogers was famous not infamous.

[Soliton]

The coverup, and not the crime is worse for the church.

To be fair to the Holy See, they don't claim it's real, but they allow charlatans to exploit it.

[Soliton]

OK, the Shroud is a fake. No matter, I would still die for my faith. Kinda makes the whole controversy moot, doesn't it? 5.56mm

Of course you are right. There are millions, however, who need proof, that's what this whole Shroud nonsense is about. That and money.

[the invisib1e hand]

ah, yes, thank you for pointing that out.

[brytlea]

If people need something that tangible to believe, and it shakes their faith if it turns out to be a fake, they didn’t have much faith to begin with. I find it interesting (I would love to know how it was made) but it seems unlikely that it’s really the shroud Jesus was buried in. And when I first heard of it, I wanted to believe it was real (because I thought it would be cool to know what He looked like).