Sorry. I forgot I was dealing with rabid Truthers here. Let me be as clear as I can. I looked at the evidence, employing my experience, reason, research, experiment, and review, and a constant process of refinement. I learned many things. For example, I learned that, on the one hand, we have officials at all levels of the local and state government of Hawaii, along with hospital administrators, contemporaneous (1961) newspaper reports, groups like Snopes and factcheck.org (who were shown the original shortform), all affirming Obama’s birth in Hawaii in 1961, and no one in any position of authority in Hawaii raising any credible doubts about that affirmation. On the other hand, we have claims from crackpots like 9-11 Truther Philip Berg that all the aforementioned are concealing the truth, along with affidavits from Kenyan nationals with their own political axes to grind (and challenges to their credibility), and an interview (which has lots of translation problems) with Sarah Obama, who can’t seem to decide whether she’s a christian or a muslim, seeming to declare that Obama is a Kenyan native.
So, after observing, reasoning, reviewing, researching, thinking, and discussing the evidence on both sides, I concluded that a conspiracy that began in 1961, and continues to this day, among disparate agencies from the newspapers (or their hidden manipulators) in 1961 Hawaii to the current SCOTUS, seems less plausible (to put it kindly) than that US naysayers and the Kenyan sources are wrong. I summarized that by saying it doesn’t pass the smell test.
I know there’s no hope of persuading you; I’ve dealt with this sort of thing before. Only you have the real facts, only you have done the real research, only you can see through the smokescreen to the underlying conspiracy, etc etc...
Enough already. You’re making us all look like idiots.
The only person you are dealing with is yourself. And your chosen spins that make yourself big while making others small.
The correct designation for this place is: Peoples' Republic of Hawaii.
"Rabid Truthers" is an understatement.