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Item 1: As to the “digging”: mostly addressed in prior posts, but I’ve looked at the forgery claims, they don’t pass the smell test (see earlier post for definition of “smell test.”).
***Wherever your earlier post is, you did not define “smell test” on this thread. In fact, you’ve been taken to task for your sense of truth smell. So you’ll need to point to the FReeper usable definition of smell test if you want us to use it and if you want to be above reproach for relying upon it. The fact that you have not done so is evidence of intent for obfuscation on your part.

I was accused of being insufficiently conservative, (or lazy, or something) in this thread almost from the get-go.
***Okay, now we’re later into the thread and I am accusing you of both.

That’s usually a clue for me that rational debate is unlikely. Indignant, condescending, self-righteous certitude often prompts my derision.
***Look at what you just said. You, being the sole-appointed judge of rational debate have decided that it is not there and so you decide it’s okay to engage in derision. Look at yourself! You are a charicature of a good conservative. Engage in rational debate even when you see irrational debate. That’s what I’m doing — with YOU.

(And this is a conservative website, not a strictly constitutional one.)
***It is both. So don’t throw out the constitutionalist component.

Item 2: The harm comes from the degeneration of the level of debate.
***That’s a slight harm, and it seems to be confined to a corner of conservatism such as this website, not to the whole republic as you claim. Your own elaboration argues against your original claim. Learn to reason, take a critical thinking class, and refrain from judging rationality of debate because you do not possess the proper skillset to do judge.

Issues take a back seat to “gotcha” games. So crazed were the lefties, they failed to notice that, aside from taxes and abortion, Bush was not governing as a conservative most of the time.
***Interesting stuff about lefties, but now it’s righties you’re talking about and we are much different. Your analogy falls apart.

But they hated him anyway. Which leads to...
***We can’t stop them from hating him, but we can stop their lies and hoodwinking.

Item 3: If the shoe doesn’t fit, don’t put your foot in it.
***That doesn’t make any sense, and your attempt at applying it falls flat. The reason is because of your present tense case of “shoe—not fitting now” versus the future tense case of “if they’ll be satisfied”. It is a classic fallacy of improper analogy. Take that critical thinking class.

If all the folks who are raising this issue now will be satisfied after the last court case is finally denied, that’ll be wonderful.
***There’s no argument here. It’s a future case, and you’re deriding people NOW as if they will not react properly in the future. If you can’t see the fallacy in that line of reasoning, there is little hope for you.

Given some of the rhetoric I’ve seen in this thread and elsewhere, and your expressed doubt about SCOTUS’s “courage”, I’m not optimistic; it’s already looking like BDS is being supplanted by ODS. So no thank you, I won’t keep my mouth shut.
***It looks like the 20th Amendment of the Constitution has ODS because it states that the president elect can fail to qualify. Your assessment of this BDS supplantation of ODS will not even take place until well after January 9th, so by your own reasoning you should be keeping your mouth shut until then. Let the constitution speak.

Item 4: I might consider a small wager (that’d be one way to have something to look forward to on Jan 20.)
***I’ve been trying very hard to get Intrade to post contracts. https://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/2279.page
Maybe you should post there alongside all the other liberals, that way you don’t look like you’re pretending to be conservative.

Item 5: It’s possible for a president-elect to fail to qualify; that’s not the issue here, IMO.
***IMO? That’s EXACTLY the issue here and yet you’re deriding fellow freepers because of your self-perceived judgement of lack of rationality? You’re the one who’s being irrational. You are the one who deserves derision and scorn.

As to who I think I am: for your purposes, I’m a long standing member of this forum, as are you. Beyond that, I owe you no explanation.
***That is one of the things I’ve tried to change because there are a lot of RINOs who hide behind the coattails of conservatism, which is what I suspect you are. We had the bugzapper thread where many of them committed freepercide, but there’s still an infestation and JimRob shows no inclination to deal with it. I’m willing to bet dollars to donuts that you would be unwilling to participate in an idealogy litmus matrix. And you’re right, you owe me now explanation, just like all the other cockroach RINOs who are hiding in the shadows. Talk about damage to the forum — and to the republic. 20% of those RINOs voted for Obama.