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To: Non-Sequitur

You said:
“Yes he was. The whole gist of the case was summed up by Justice Gray when he wrote, “The foregoing considerations and authorities irresistibly lead us to these conclusions: The fourteenth amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens, with the exceptions or qualifications (as old as the rule itself) of children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships, or of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory, and with the single additional exception of children of members of the Indian tribes owing direct allegiance to their several tribes. The amendment, in clear words and in manifest intent, includes the children born within the territory of the United States of all other persons, of whatever race or color, domiciled within the United States. Every citizen or subject of another country, while domiciled here, is within the allegiance and the protection, and consequently subject to the jurisdiction, of the United States.” The Court confirmed the concept of two classes of citizen - citizen at birth and naturalized. The court confirmed that any person born in the U.S., regardless of the nationality of their parents, is a citizen at birth. Therefore it confirmed that any citizen at birth can be president. “

You can keep on dreaming all that you want that you read the words “natural born citizen” in there or that it claims to be ruling on Article II - Section 1 of the Constitution but nowhere in what you post does it claim either of these things.

There is a difference between a citizen and a naturalborn citizen and the judge you are quoting never claims otherwise.


81 posted on 12/11/2008 6:13:57 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf
You can keep on dreaming all that you want that you read the words “natural born citizen” in there or that it claims to be ruling on Article II - Section 1 of the Constitution but nowhere in what you post does it claim either of these things.

No dreaming necessary.

There is a difference between a citizen and a naturalborn citizen and the judge you are quoting never claims otherwise.

That is not the issue. The question is what is the difference between a natural born citizen and a citizen at birth. The law recognizes no difference. The courts have found no difference. The Constitution doesn't define a difference. What does?

128 posted on 12/12/2008 4:21:24 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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