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To: Mobile Vulgus
Of course, Obama’s foreign birth, if it comes to be true, will undermine his presidency. But better to have a single president’s legitimacy undermined due to his actions than to undermine the entire electoral process. It should be noted that Nixon understood this point well. In 1960 it was pretty clear that the Kennedy’s stole the election in Chicago and that LBJ stole it in Texas in order to put Kennedy into the White House. Nixon could easily and legitimately have contested that election. But Nixon did not dispute the 1960 election so as not to undermine the entire system. He felt the will of the people had been heard and for the good of the nation it should stand. So, while the Constitution is mighty important, the will of the people is supreme. And the will of the people has been clearly heard in this case. The vote was not close. Barack Obama won, fair and square in the minds of the electorate.

Excellent point. Do we need race riots now? 0bama won. Let's move along. Let America face her consequences.

4 posted on 12/09/2008 6:38:08 AM PST by LiberConservative (Typical white guy)
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To: LiberConservative

The people who would engage in race riots dont care what the Constitution says.

This country shouldnt use their threats of burnin and lootin as a barometer of what approach to take.

That is operating from fear- whatever happened to this nation being the home of the brave?


13 posted on 12/09/2008 6:42:10 AM PST by Canedawg ("The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it")
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To: LiberConservative

Fear of riots should NEVER EVER by a rule for disregarding the law.

This is exactly how mobs got people executed. The EXACT SAME MENTALITY.


22 posted on 12/09/2008 6:44:50 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: LiberConservative

“Do we need race riots now?”

Yeah. Screw the Constitution. Let’s make all our decisions based on succumbing to those who would intimidate those of us who abide the law. Freedom and democracy are SO hard and scary.


25 posted on 12/09/2008 6:45:44 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: LiberConservative
Obama’s foreign birth, if it comes to be true, will undermine his presidency.

IS GROUNDS FOR IMPEACHMENT !

32 posted on 12/09/2008 6:48:04 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Never underestimate the ability of a liberal to deny reality and attempt to change the rules to do s)
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To: LiberConservative
“Excellent point. Do we need race riots now? 0bama won. Let's move along. Let America face her consequences.”

Oh hell yeah! Maybe cousin Odinga can run for president in 4 years! Won't that be fun?

As for the race riots you fear-the 12% of our population who would begin the process in that event need to learn that they will not get away with such activity every time they don't get what they want. Enough.

39 posted on 12/09/2008 6:49:36 AM PST by Into the Vortex
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To: LiberConservative

It amazes me how many recent signuos such as youself support the move along position.

All your fearless leader needs to do is release his BC.

Even you can understand that.


50 posted on 12/09/2008 6:56:35 AM PST by stockpirate (Left ignores Constitution except 16th amendment, can we ignore the 16th amendment?)
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To: LiberConservative

If Nixon had contested, and had the country suffer a little then, maybe we wouldn’t have a democrat party that is even more blatant in their cheating to the point that the republicans have to overcome a known built-in fraud factor.


51 posted on 12/09/2008 6:57:30 AM PST by Betty Jane
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To: LiberConservative
It should be noted that Nixon understood this point well. In 1960 it was pretty clear that the Kennedy’s stole the election in Chicago and that LBJ stole it in Texas in order to put Kennedy into the White House. Nixon could easily and legitimately have contested that election. But Nixon did not dispute the 1960 election so as not to undermine the entire system. He felt the will of the people had been heard and for the good of the nation it should stand.

This doesn't make logical sense. If Kennedy and LBJ stole the election how was that the will of the people? And, I wonder, had Nixon actually exposed this to the light of day, might we have actually solved the election fraud problem instead of letting it become so ingrained?

63 posted on 12/09/2008 7:01:34 AM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: LiberConservative
. He felt the will of the people had been heard and for the good of the nation it should stand.
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I doubt that Nixon was that honorable. He likely felt that contesting the fraud would hurt his chances in the next election. It is likely the **same** motivation that keeps the Republican leaders from demanding Obama’s documents.

65 posted on 12/09/2008 7:02:18 AM PST by wintertime
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To: LiberConservative

“Do we need race riots now? “

It wouldn’t be just blacks rioting. Tens of millions of whites voted for him as well.


84 posted on 12/09/2008 7:11:19 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: LiberConservative

How well stated by a wimp! “Dont do anything that might upset the rowdies!” Hell, We do what is Right and Legal!
If someone chose to violate Our Constitution and commit multiple Felony Frauds in so doing, We dont reward them with the power to destroy that which We hold near and dear, They are forced to beTried and if found guilty, to pay the consequences, no matter how harsh!
Simpson was and is a good example as of last Friday!


133 posted on 12/09/2008 7:47:18 AM PST by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: LiberConservative
Excellent point. Do we need race riots now? 0bama won. Let's move along. Let America face her consequences.

On the one hand you want to avoid the consequences of a disqualified obama but you are urging us to face the consequences of an elected obama.

Do you not see the vast inconsitency?

138 posted on 12/09/2008 7:55:15 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: LiberConservative
"Do we need race riots now? 0bama won. Let's move along. Let America face her consequences. "

Race riots?? White people are not threatening to riot. This would be a law enforcement issue and EASILY handled by the national guard if needed.
150 posted on 12/09/2008 8:05:28 AM PST by LetsRok
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To: LiberConservative

“...So, while the Constitution is mighty important, the will of the people is supreme.”...

Oh, I get it now...

We are a nation of men and not one of laws.

So if the majority (aka the “will of the people”) decide to jump off a cliff (i.e.: throw out the Constitution), because they are thoroughly brainwashed by a liberal-dominated media and a corrupt government-run school system that inculcates the Constitution is a “living document” (how convenient!)...

Well then let us all go along and all drink the socialist kool-aid. Hooray! I feel better already!

This opinion is idiocy trying to provide itself a cover of legitimacy by tainting the founders with its scatology.

The Constitution is THE supreme law of this land. If the “will of the people” require some deviation from its tenets, then let them work for a constitutional amendment.


159 posted on 12/09/2008 8:15:08 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: LiberConservative

So, while the Constitution is mighty important, the will of the people is supreme. And the will of the people has been clearly heard in this case.
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So in other words, screw the Constitution the majority has spoken.
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“Measures are too often decided, not according to the rules of justice and the rights of the minor party, but by the superior force of an interested and overbearing majority.” - James Madison, Federalist 10


163 posted on 12/09/2008 8:17:56 AM PST by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: LiberConservative
Barack Obama won, fair and square in the minds of the electorate.

Excuse me for stepping on this parade, but Obama would have never won "fair and square" if his inelegibility to hold the office had not been hidden from the electroate.

164 posted on 12/09/2008 8:20:05 AM PST by bimbo
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To: LiberConservative
So, while the Constitution is mighty important, the will of the people is supreme.

This would be true if we had a pure democracy not the Constitutional Republic which we do have. If it was true we also would not be a nation of laws but would be a nation of individuals only. This author misses the entire reason our Founders created the government they did.

166 posted on 12/09/2008 8:21:41 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: LiberConservative; Mobile Vulgus

But better to have a single president’s legitimacy undermined due to his actions than to undermine the entire electoral process.
***According to the 20th amendment, “if the President Elect shall have failed to qualify...”

That means he could fail to qualify, after the election, and even after the Electoral College meets — because he isn’t even yet the President Elect.

The constitution spells it out: election results are subordinate to a president elect qualifying. This author simply hasn’t read his constitution.


180 posted on 12/09/2008 8:55:03 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: LiberConservative

So, the threat of rioting—racial or otherwise—is sufficient for you to turn your back on a basic tenet of the US Constitution? If you can, try to carry that opinion to its logical conclusion.


188 posted on 12/09/2008 9:16:26 AM PST by dools007
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To: LiberConservative
In 1960 it was pretty clear that the Kennedy’s stole the election in Chicago and that LBJ stole it in Texas in order to put Kennedy into the White House. Nixon could easily and legitimately have contested that election. But Nixon did not dispute the 1960 election so as not to undermine the entire system. He felt the will of the people had been heard and for the good of the nation it should stand. So, while the Constitution is mighty important, the will of the people is supreme.

LOL, talk about a self-contradictory paragraph! The 1960 election was stolen, so obviously the "will of the people" was NOT heard. I mean, it's one or the other....

191 posted on 12/09/2008 9:23:09 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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