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To: savedbygrace

“It’s a silly argument. Fraud vitiates all contracts, and fraud vitiates elections. Is he saying he’s in favor of allowing all cases of election fraud to go unexamined, simply because the people voted and one candidate won, so let’s move on?”

I am with you. It’s a silly argument. The correct argument is this:
Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug 4th, 1961, and is therefore a natural born citizen eligible to serve as President. There has been sufficient proof of this fact by considering:
- Honolulu paper birth announcement that week
- the CoLB that was presented and which was by all reasonable conclusions a valid document from state of Hawaii
- Hawaii state officials vouching for his birth records and birth certificate on file with the state
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/politics/17866037/detail.html


222 posted on 12/09/2008 12:38:13 PM PST by WOSG (Obama - a born in the USA socialist)
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To: WOSG

Not so fast, WOSG. His father had rights over him, as did Great Britain. He was a British subject at birth. No natural born there — but that’s what the Supreme Court needs to rule on.


226 posted on 12/09/2008 12:54:06 PM PST by Technical Editor
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To: WOSG

1) A newspaper birth announcement is not evidence of anything, because anyone could have called that announcement in.

2) The CoLB that Obama has presented is not a Certificate of Live Birth. It is a Certification of Live Birth, which does not certify the birth location. The Certificate of Live Birth would have the name and signature of the doctor who assisted in the birth. That’s the document Obama is spending 100s of thousands of dollars to keep hidden.

A Certification of Live Birth can be provided for any person born outside of Hawai’i within, IIRC, one year. Hawai’i doesn’t even recognize a Certification of Live Birth as evidence of Hawaiian birth for homestead applications.

Again, no evidence of a Hawai’i birth.

3) Here’s what Fukino said: “’Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,’” Fukino said.

She did not say that Obama was born in Hawai’i.

So, you’re 0 for 3. What else you got?


227 posted on 12/09/2008 12:57:46 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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