I thought it was interesting and am posting it here.
http://www.democratic-disaster.com/
Constitution, what Constitution?
...After reading the post, Wayne Abraham and I are in agreement on this issue. Case closed...
Wonder how Wayne feels about the questions beginning to arise overseas. Pravda has already raised the question about the validity of treaties and agreements signed by Obama.
What happens when some of our soldiers are seized and accused of unlawfully operating under the orders of an illegitimate leader?
Seems to me that Zero needs to get over his arrogance and prove to the USA and the world that he will be legitimate leader. Or is his pride more important than global stability?
Mr. Abraham is one of Obama’s hand-picked electors. He confuses basic citizenship with the more restrictive natural born citizen. The only time not being a natural born citizen matters under the law at all, is in being deemed eligible for the office of President. None of the examples Mr. Abraham cites, outside of the presidency, require natural born citizenship. And so, he concludes that it doesn’t matter there, because it doesn’t matter elsewhere.
More BU**SH**
Just show us the REAL birth certificate, not a fake and there would be no doubts, would there?
There is a “Sneaky” word in the statement “He has lived in the United States as a U.S. citizen for his entire adult life.”
Sorta refusing to acknowledge BHO had a Childhood.
So, how many years did half and half live outside the USA ?
Nobody wants to talk about it.
Oh my that is a disaster. They can just keep moving the goal post on that issue.
So what this elector has determined is that if you are an illegal alien live here illegally for 20-35 years get a fake BC, aquire a SS#- You can be deemed a “Natural Born Citizen.” You can be President too.
PS. Don’t ever go thru the immigration naturalization process because then you will have established that you are an immigrant.
“Since the United States Supreme Court has not rendered an opinion regarding the validity of the “natural born” status of a U.S. citizen or otherwise defined this term, I am therefore at liberty to make my own determination as a Presidential Elector.”
And therein lies the rub. No SCOTUS decision, then “I am therefore at liberty...”. The SCOTUS must review all evidence and make a decision. Otherwise this line of scary thinking will prevail.
This line of reasoning could as well be adopted by those in opposition to Mr. Obama’s legitamacy (although I don’t recommend it). If the SCOTUS hasn’t ruled then “I” can refuse to acknowledge his presidency because “I” think differently. “I” don’t have to pay taxes levied by the next sitting congress and signed by this new “president” because “I am at liberty” to say he isn’t legitimate, and until the SCOTUS rules otherwise.....
It is a slippery slope. This is a prelude to anarchy. When someone like this “elector” can say “I am at liberty to...” then everyone is as equally at liberty. This is not a workable solution.
“The United States government itself accepted his natural born citizenship when it issued him a passport”
I wonder how Barry got his passport? Some sort of fraud I would imagine. Or perhaps he is still travelling as an Indonesian! LOL
Show us the original birth certificate, Barry.
Unfortunately, morons like him comprise 52% of the electorate.
Stand by for four years of individual interpretation of the Constitution.
Forget the filibuster. Obama has an impeachment-proof House and Senate.
Starry-eyed decisis?
“Since the United States Supreme Court has not rendered an opinion regarding the validity of the “natural born” status of a U.S. citizen or otherwise defined this term, I am therefore at liberty to make my own determination as a Presidential Elector.”
Yep, and if he’s wrong Obama will be thrown out and Biden installed.
What a mess.
All because no one checked before the election!
Any Prersident capable of directing Katrina to strike poor dumb New Orleans residents is certainly capable of directing Obama’s mother to birth her bastard son in Kenya,;;;or Tibet! That Bush is a powerful guy!
I don’t know what cases the Supremes did accept on Friday, but I doubt they involve issues even a fraction as important as clarifying the definition of “natural-born citizen.” I don’t want the politicians to define this, as they will simply manipulate their definition with an eye toward the next election or two.
This goes way beyond Obama. It will likely come up again and again.
That is not correct. No Hawaiian offical has ever stated that he has a birth certificate on file indicating he was born in Hawaii.
1. Without the long form birth certificate information
Mr. Obama could have been anywhere. Even his sister Mya
Sottero has a Hawaii birth certificate and she was born in
Indonesia.
Here is why.....
[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.
(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.htm
For $1.00 any Foreigner can get a Hawaiian birth certificate.
2.The State of Hawaii DID NOT confirm Mr. Obama was
born in Hawaii. They only confirmed the he had a birth
certificate on file and they had seen it.
DR. FUKINO could also have made the exact statement about
Mr. Obama’s sister Mya Sottero whom again was born in Indonesia.
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.”
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf
Still does not prove or provide the location where Mr. Obama was born
BOOKMARK
Arrogant & ignorant: O.J. & Obama & all of O’s electors.