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1 posted on 12/02/2008 1:54:26 PM PST by patriotgal1787
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2 posted on 12/02/2008 1:56:13 PM PST by Velveeta
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Obama's bin lyin about his entire life story.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

3 posted on 12/02/2008 1:58:12 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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4 posted on 12/02/2008 2:00:12 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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Why oh why is there this strange factionalism?

Why don’t people who speak out about the birth certificate also speak out about Obama’s father’s UK citizenship and his step-father’s Indonesian citizenship being passed on to BHO-II?

People, get your act together.


5 posted on 12/02/2008 2:02:25 PM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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How many times are we going to read articles on this subject? (not attacking you the FReeper messenger), but this same scenario has been posted ongoing).

So, I will repost to show this is just not going anywhere in regard to the removal of Obama and Biden taking over. The people have decided, whether we were in agreement or not

Natural Born Citizen McCain,
Colero Also Challenged Denofrio Vs. Wells Barack Obama,
Birth Certificate,
Citizenship Questions Justice Clarence Thomas: Distributed Leo C. Denofrio’s renewed application For Conference on December 5

Beginning in October, Denofrio made his way up through the ranks of the courts until his constitutional question as to the meaning of “natural born citizen” reached the Supreme Court.

He submitted an application for an emergency stay to prohibit the use of what he called “defective ballots” in the state of New Jersey because they contained ineligible candidates for the office of President of the United States, and asked that the court order New Jersey Secretary of State (SOS) Nina Mitchell Wells to remove the names of Republican candidate John McCain, Democratic candidate Barack Obama and Socialist Workers Party candidate Roger Calero from New Jersey ballots.

According to Denofrio, the three candidates are not “natural born citizens,” as required by the Constitution to hold the office of President of the United States.

Denofrio also quotes a section from the U.S. Department of State’s Foreign Affairs Manual, which states, “Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to U.S. jurisdiction and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.”

“The Foreign Affairs Manual also addresses the issue of eligibility for president as such: “It has never been determined definitively by a court whether a person who acquired U.S. citizenship by birth abroad to U.S. citizens is a natural born citizen within the meaning of Article II of the Constitution and, therefore, eligible for the Presidency.”

Denofrio cites 8 USC 1402(a): that McCain may claim his citizenship because of the statute. But does that make McCain a “natural born citizen”?

Denofrio states, “McCain is in the class of citizens who obtain their citizenship at birth, but not from the Constitution, but rather federal statute.”

...had the U.S. legislature intended to grant ‘natural born citizen’ status to all who were born on U.S. soil, then the 14th Amendment would contain the words ‘natural born citizen,’ but it doesn’t … McCain was born in Panama. Panama is not considered U.S. soil, nor has it ever been considered as such.”

The Naturalization Act of 1790 stated, “… the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens …” However, Denofrio points out the Naturalization Act of 1795 specifically repealed the 1790 act and replaced it with the same clause except with the words “natural born” deleted. Denofrio states McCain was born in Panama, Calero was born in Nicaragua and Obama’s birthplace has not been verified.

( A re-post)

6 posted on 12/02/2008 2:07:47 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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Not until Congress and the SCOTUS get involved in this case will it ever be resolved.

I kept on thinking that Obama may come up with a legitimate COLB. But then again, if these documents are extant, what is his reason to hide them and paying lawyer fees in the hundreds of thousand of dollars in order to stonewall the case. Where is the equivalent of “Deep Throat” that Nixon had to contend with in the Watergate affair?

My opinion is that the Watergate affair is insignificant compared with the absence of Obama’s true identification. In these dangerous times it is absolutely critical that the American people know who they have in the WH.


7 posted on 12/02/2008 2:16:44 PM PST by 353FMG (The sky is not falling, yet.)
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If Arnold can hold the office he does in Calif, he certainly should be able to run for the Presidency. I did ask him, at one time, this very question on citizenship and the presidency,(before Obama); so I am sure he might be watching this controversy closely. However, the controversial California governor, said when I posed his future run, that his focus would be on California only!
8 posted on 12/02/2008 2:19:21 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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If some of the Electoral College voted for Obama; would their votes be null and void without proper proof?


10 posted on 12/02/2008 2:39:23 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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If Barack were to have the state of Hawaii forward directly to the SCOTUS a certified copy of his birth records, and the SCOTUS were to publicly state that it had received them and called the state of Hawaii to confirm the contents, and the records showed that Obama was born in the U.S., I would see no basis for any further proceedings without strong evidence that the records were falsified.

On the other hand, I can think of no reason why any eligible person with a temperament even remotely suited to being president would be unwilling to do that. Even if there are details in the records that would be embarrassing, that's no basis not to make them available to the court and have it reveal the essential fact necessary for his eligibility.

If Barack isn't eligible, anyone who would allow him to take power to avoid the riots that might otherwise ensue would be, quite literally, surrendering the Constitution to mob rule.

15 posted on 12/02/2008 4:36:48 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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