Sudan politicians claim stake in Obama heritage
Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:54pm EST
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By Andrew Heavens
KHARTOUM (Reuters) - Sudanese politicians claimed Barack Obama as one of their own on Saturday as they belatedly celebrated his election as U.S. president, hailing his family roots in their country.
Much has been made of Obama’s father’s origins in Kenya. But he acknowledged his distant Sudanese roots in his autobiography ‘Dreams From My Father’.
“His father came from the Luo (tribe), who are from the Nile. The Luo originally moved from Sudan to Kenya,” said Yasir Arman, a senior member of the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement, former southern rebels who are now in a coalition government with the north.
Hundreds of SPLM supporters crammed into their headquarters for a belated party marking Obama’s victory.
Many held up banners marked ‘New Sudan Yes We Can’ - a message that merged an SPLM slogan with Obama’s rallying cry.
Arman said members were inspired by Obama’s election as the United States’ first black president.
“It is giving a message to our society that Sudan can do the same, that Sudan can recognize its own diversity,” he said.
“We hope he will be able to give more attention to all of Africa, not just Sudan.”
The United States has had a troubled relationship with Sudan’s Khartoum-based government. It has imposed trade sanctions on Khartoum, included it on its list of state sponsors of terrorism, and accused northern troops and militias of committing genocide in the Darfur conflict.
The south has been exempted from most of the sanctions.
The SPLM fought the north for more than 20 years in a conflict that pitted the Islamist Khartoum government against mainly Christian and animist rebels. The war ended with a 2005 peace agreement.
(Editing by Angus MacSwan)
posted on 11/29/2008 8:09:46 PM PST
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.
The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.
Listen to the recording here
The quote is around 12:35, so if you dont have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:
Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born
Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive
Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there
Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.
Here is an abridged Utube version
of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.
It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --youll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.
First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.
Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.
He used the same technique on the question of Obamas birth place. This time the ambassador said yes.
Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.
Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.
Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego
To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..
They are the same.
Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador
said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:
"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."
However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. Further, here is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae
which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.
"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."
The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)
Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that.
In any case the supreme court--at Justice Thomas instigation-- is taking up the issue Dec 5
posted on 11/29/2008 8:11:33 PM PST
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