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Obama's "birth certificate" - the Devil's in the details
Article 2, Sect 1, Clause 5 (Natural Born Citizen) ^ | 11/28/08 | Robert Reece

Posted on 11/28/2008 8:52:27 AM PST by BP2

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This article goes in A LOT greater detail than I've seen elsewhere about the intricacies of the Hawaiian birth certificate program.

There's LOTs of different ways that Barry can hide true birth records history.

As the article says, "Critics should be asking the correct questions..."

1 posted on 11/28/2008 8:52:27 AM PST by BP2
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To: BP2

I am thankful for people whogive us food for thought:

Dr. Polarik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ&eurl=&feature=player_embedded

and

James David Manning PHD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJc6uczdhE0

Boom Chaka Laka Brother!


2 posted on 11/28/2008 8:54:49 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: BP2
The truth is Obama is not a citizen by birth. He can continue the fight in the courts for years; and probably get by with it.

Remember the medias LOVE him.

3 posted on 11/28/2008 8:59:52 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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The article says — “To silence the questions of his birth records and citizenship, as well as lessen his legal jeopardy in regard to his eligibility to hold the office of President, perhaps Obama’s best course of action would seem that he reveals the details of his birth record. In doing so, he would be able to put to rest doubts that have hounded him for years. Leaving the questions unanswered may well taint the legitimacy of his Presidency for years to come.”

Well, yeah..., every law that Obama signs, every law that Congress passes — will all be challeged by someone, somewhere, in that it’s not a valid law because there is evidence that Obama is not a natural-born citizen and that he has done nothing to disprove this evidence, legally....

Look for lawsuits continuously on every piece of legislation throughout any term that Obama occupies that office.


4 posted on 11/28/2008 9:01:24 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: chicagolady

You said — “Boom Chaka Laka Brother!”

Amen to that... LOL. I like that black preacher... :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJc6uczdhE0


5 posted on 11/28/2008 9:06:34 AM PST by Star Traveler
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Interesting research. Chances of seeing the legitimate certificate of birth from Kenya, Hawaii, Indonesia or wherever are now probably slim to none, unfortunately, but the questions should continue to be asked.


6 posted on 11/28/2008 9:07:08 AM PST by kevinm13 (John 8:32: "And you will know the truth and the truth shall set you free.”)
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To silence the questions of his birth records and citizenship, as well as lessen his legal jeopardy in regard to his eligibility to hold the office of President, perhaps Obama’s best course of action would seem that he reveals the details of his birth record. In doing so, he would be able to put to rest doubts that have hounded him for years. Leaving the questions unanswered may well taint the legitimacy of his Presidency for years to come.

Until Obama does this I'm going to assume that the claims of forgery in the BC Obama submitted in June and a Obama Kenyan birth are a very real possibility.

7 posted on 11/28/2008 9:07:25 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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Dec 5th approaches. Let us hope and pray that at least five justices do not allow a Kenyan national to become our President.


8 posted on 11/28/2008 9:07:48 AM PST by PeterFinn (Where in the world was Obama born? Will we ever know?)
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Here is a site to sign a petition demanding Obama provide a vault copy of his BC. Sign the petition and also provide a zip code and the site will generate an email and/or letter and send it to your congressperson:

Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis Sign the Petition : 121,065 Letters and Emails Sent So Far

9 posted on 11/28/2008 9:08:44 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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Suspend the Constitution, then this particular requirement will not be effective.

Nothing in the Constitution would be effective, in fact.

Go to government by shooting from the hip, making it up as you go along.

Works in Zimbabwe. Even in South Africa, if I recall correctly.


10 posted on 11/28/2008 9:17:50 AM PST by alloysteel (Molon labe! Roughly translated, "Come and take them!" referring to personal weapons.)
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To: Star Traveler; ckilmer; freepersup; Frantzie; pissant; Lmo56; STARWISE; SE Mom; Bahbah; ...
For example, Sun Yat-sen, Chinese revolutionary and political leader often referred to as the “Father of Modern China,” was able to file a “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth” application and immigrate to the US in 1904 using the form.

Good to know the “Father of Modern China” and Obama may have something in common. They might have become US citizens via the same mechanism - the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth ...

11 posted on 11/28/2008 9:18:34 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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"(In fact, if you take a look at your “birth certificate” that you may have tucked away in a safe place, it probably says, “Certificate of Live Birth” at the very top of the form.)"

Actually, I did get mine out and look a few weeks ago and was surprised to see that document itself does not contain a title of any kind.

The certification by the State Registrar of Vital Statistics and the State Commissioner of Health, contains a note that says "if this is a copy of a birth record, any agreement of or difference between the child's surname and the surname of its father does not imply legitimacy or illegitimacy. This is merely a copy of the information suppllied for the preparation of the original birth certificate."

Birth certificates, no matter what they are called within a specific jurisdiction, are going to vary from state to state and could possibly even vary between counties in a particular state. Some people have a difficult time getting their heads around that concept.

12 posted on 11/28/2008 9:20:09 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of The Free Because of The Brave)
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Both are commies too, I reckon.


13 posted on 11/28/2008 9:20:32 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: TruthWillWin
Until Obama does this I'm going to assume that the claims of forgery in the BC Obama submitted in June and a Obama Kenyan birth are a very real possibility.

There is no doubt left in my mind on the former, and I'm about 90% convinced of the latter.

MM (in TX)

14 posted on 11/28/2008 9:21:29 AM PST by MississippiMan
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I don’t care who you are or where you live, look at your own BC. I am 45 had to get a copy of mine recently. Obviously it is the short form. The one thing that is blaring on his is lack of SIGNATURES. I am not even talking about the Dr. but any official document you get from the state has a signature and seal. The signature is from the State Registrar from the Office of Vital Records and the person who issued it to you. They also say on them NOT VALID UNLESS EMBOSSED WITH A RAISED SEAL. Mine also says, this is to Certify that this is a true reproduction of the original record on file with the state office of vital records.

What he presented as PROOF, I could do myself on the computer.


15 posted on 11/28/2008 9:26:53 AM PST by panthermom
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Good stuff on Plains Radio the last two nights with Leo’s. essentially one of the men who wrote the 14th Amnednment pointed out that natural born citizen may require 2 American born parents. Someone found a case with Justice John Paul Stevens (oldest on the court) essentially backing Leo’s case.

Also Scalia was on CSPAN giving a speech at a dinner right after Leo’s case. He said they no longer look at Common Law and I forget the other details but it would be supportive of Leo’s case.

A few people who listen to Plains Radio have been doing legal research on their own. They have been coming up with great legal research to support Leo’s case.


16 posted on 11/28/2008 9:27:21 AM PST by Frantzie
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Critics estimate Obama and his campaign has spent nearly $1 million dodging the issue of the details behind his birth certificate.

At first this "Obama birth certificate" business seem like so much BS...

But for Obama to NOT provide the full paper trail just to be done with it?... What there that he does not want found out?

The thing is at this late date, if he WAS found to be constitutionally ineligible to be president, and the supreme court ruled an such... there be a full blown civil war by the left wing Obamabots

My bet, if there is something there, the power that be will hide it...

And if Obama does "go right"(to any degree) the left wing Obamabots will also believed there hiding something on "birth certificate" issue and he being blackmailed by the "evil right"

17 posted on 11/28/2008 9:28:05 AM PST by tophat9000 ( Note: To Obama's Thugocracys... We are all " joe the plumber "...)
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Obama’s best course of action would seem that he reveals the details of his birth record. In doing so, he would be able to put to rest doubts that have hounded him for years.

Revealing the details his birth record could unravel this guy's entire history which he clearly has sought to hide. I hope the true extent of his deceit will eventually come to light.

Thank you for posting.

18 posted on 11/28/2008 9:28:51 AM PST by Starboard
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To: BP2; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...
BP2, thank you for an excellent article, and thanks for the ping.

Pinging The List.

19 posted on 11/28/2008 9:30:35 AM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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EXCELLENT!!!

Also, the Selective Service Registration fraud is finally catching up.

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2008/11/obama-selective-service-registration-another-obama-record-another-question/

Please pass it around.


20 posted on 11/28/2008 9:34:01 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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