Posted on 11/26/2008 2:44:07 PM PST by urobolus
Hey, if the Chicago mob was good enough to buy the election for JFK, I guess they're good enough to elect Camelot II, Obama.
Troll.
This account has been banned or suspended.
Another CoLB troll paved.
Very nice!
Who is factcheck and why should I believe them? Wikipedia is full of nonsense, much like the whole of the internet and I’d sooner trust Debka.com than this new entity.
also, to the small round mass pushed down one’s esophageal tract after mastication.
I.E., the lump you swallow after chewing.
As one who wishes to excel, you *should* have known that...
YES, ITS SAFE!!!
Also, why doesn’t the main stream press not have a copy in thier hands?
Same sh**, different commie!
In the paperback edition of Dreams of My Father, the following appears on p. 26 in the second to last paragraph in chapter 1:
I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school.
You are full of bs.
People are saying that if he was born in Hawaii, then he is a natural born citizen. Obama himself admits his father was a citizen of the U.K. (now Kenya) so this issue of his birth certificate is pretty much a red herring. It makes no difference where he was born, only what his fathers nationality was. And all a birth certificate can prove is that what Obama has been telling us is the truth about who is father was. Now, if he lied and Obama Sr. is not his father, and his father is a “real” American that’s different.
But if he’s telling us the truth than no, I’m sorry, he’s not a ‘natural born’ citizen! He would not be a ‘natural born’ citizen because that status follows the fathers nationality.
And by the 14th Amendment (1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.) he may not even be a U.S. citizen. Why? Because he was removed from the U.S. by his mother and he was never “subject to the jurisdiction” of the U.S.
When he returned to the U.S. he would have to have been naturalized by swearing an oath of allegiance to the U.S., and relinquishing his Indonesian and Kenyan citizenships.
Since he’s not a ‘natural born’ citizen, and at best a naturalized citizen, he is ineligible for the Presidency. And if Obama Sr. is not his father he’s been pulling off one big fraud.
If being ‘born in the U.S.’ is the qualification to be considered ‘natural born’ than we have a lot of children born to Mexicans and Central Americans, who now live in Mexico, Guatemala, or elsewhere that could be elected President. Just being born here is not the qualification.
That's assuming that they don't. Why wouldn't they be willing to cover up for their candidate.
The obama team only released it to factcheck.org, fightthesmears. Not one reporter has the COLB.
They clearly have their Pravda in place. That is what makes this so frustrating.
Since he seems to have been an Indonesian citizen when adopted by his step father, he would have to give up any other citizenship he had. Indonesia does not permit dual citizenship. His school registration in Indonesia show him as an Indonesian citizen. It would explain the rumor that BO travelled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.
GO TO YOUR LIBRARY TO OR SUITABLE PLACE (LEST YOU WANT TO STICK WHERE YOU ARE} USE OTHER CPU AS THE PLAINS RADIO FORUM DISPLAYS IP AND POST INTO PLAINS RADIO FORUM REQUESTING THAT ED HALE / PLAINS RADIO BURIES THE HATCHET AND TRANSMITS THESE INTERVIEW TAPES TO FOXNEWS AS SO REQUESTED BY FOXNEWS.
http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/2442810129/ for above forum page
LEO DONFRIO APPEARS TO BE FINE [Turkey day slight update]
http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/2442810129/show/940488
A very few I emailed and I made one single post comment [now update]: What the hell am I [was] listening to [lapping late Weds eve to early Thurs AM] ? A rebroadcast of what sounds like Wednesday Nov 26 [had to be Tues Nov 25 ] Plainsradio listen live. Leo Donofrio is speaking via phone hookup to someone via phone hookup to a JD who is obviously a lawyer asking him in straight prepared questions.
Leo states he has NOT been threatened. HE WAS SLEEPING FOR A COUPLE DAYS. Then another fellow who asks if other material ( passports, student applications) can be entered.. LD seems negative on this. But LD DOES say this AM Courts Case [CW- I thought they were using changed name] ( via Connecticut action) did get docketed today in the US SUPREME COURT. [to USSC docket No. 08A46]
Steve, a young admirer calls in, who had emailed LD w/ LD acknowledging Then another fellow calls in from NY, an man of some age.
http://www.plainsradio.com/chat.html
http://www.plainsradio.com/show.html
The Caren & Eds Friday show button at lower left Nov 21 breaks off after break. HERE [Im 90% sure it was here) ED HALE SAYS HE HAS SNUBBED FOX NEWS REQUEST FOR TAPES OF THE SHOWS. EH expresses great chagrin as Fox didnt want to have anything to do with plainsradio requests to Fox earlier. Ive posted into forum message board polite but ardent request he drop the snub of Fox, that this has to get out!
REPEAT: GO TO YOUR LIBRARY TO OR SUITABLE PLACE (LEST YOU WANT TO STICK WHERE YOU ARE} USE OTHER CPU AS THE PLAINS RADIO FORUM DISPLAYS IP AND POST INTO PLAINS RADIO FORUM REQUESTING THAT ED HALE / PLAINS RADIO BURIES THE HATCHET AND TRANSMITS THESE INTERVIEW TAPES TO FOXNEWS AS SO REQUESTED BY FOXNEWS.
Theyve made their point already.
http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/2442810129/ for above forum page
So yes- following links etc (while wonderful smells coming from kitchen)
Donofrio has himself posted here:
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=1216
Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz: Clerk Bickell Allegedly Obstructing Justice on Another Emergency Stay Application
November 26th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Today, Leo Donofrio, Plaintiff in Donofrio v. Wells, reported on Mr. Cort Wrotnowskis emergency stay case from Connecticut. He says that Supreme Court of the US (SCOTUS) Clerk Danny Bickell is again denying Mr. Wrotnsowskis motion in similar fashion as he did to Mr. Donofrios (see that whole saga here).
Media alert: Wrotnowski and Donofrio will be interviewed by Bob Vernon on the Plains radio Network at 10:30PM EST; Mr. Donofrio was also on the Scott Hennen show today (MP3). This was the first main stream media exposure of the case. Please see the link and look for an audio file at this blog to be uploaded soon.
SCOTUS Docket: 08a469
A full posting is available below.
PDF document: Connecticut Supreme Court order of Chief Justic Chase Rogers.
TREASON AT SCOTUS? BICKELL OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE AGAIN IN WROTNOWSKI V. CONNECTICUT SECRETARY OF STATE
- Wrotnowski and Donofrio will be interviewed by Bob Vernon on the Plains radio Network at 10:30PM EST.
- Mr. Donofrio was also on the Scott Hennenshow today. This was the first main stream media exposure of the case. Please see the link and look for an audio file at this blog to be uploaded soon.
US Supreme Court stay clerk Danny Bickell is guilty of obstruction of justice for the second time. Yesterday, Cort Wrotnowski filed an emergency stay application in the case WROTNOWSKI V. BYSIEWICZ, CONNECTICUT SECRETARY OF STATE, which is coming directly from a Connecticut Supreme Court order of Chief Justic Chase Rogers.
Mr. Wrotnowski was informed by Danny Bickellthat Mr. Bickell denied Corts motion based on Rule 23.3, the same grounds Mr. Bickell had illegally improperly relied on to obstructDonofrio v. Wells [docket], the same case which is now going before the entire Supreme Court for Conference of Dec. 5th and to which Donofrio has pointed out Mr. Bickell was guilty of attemping to overturn Justice Powells holding in McCarthy v. Briscoe 429 U.S. 1317 n.1 (1976) and Justice OConnerin Western Airlines, Inc. v. Teamsters, 480 U.S. 1301 (1987).
Furthermore, the issue was fully briefed - in the application submitted to the SCOTUS yesterday by Mr. Wrotnowski based on Donofriosresearch, and Donofrios fear that Bickell would try to pull the same obstruction of justice again.
Furthermore, Mr. Bickell is fully aware that the Supreme Court is hearing this issue in full conference despite Bickells best attempts to stop that from happening.
Donofrio (me) believes Mr. Wrotnowskis case is at least as strong as his own, if not stronger. And Donofrio warned Wrotnowski that Bickellwas going to try the same tactic again.
Donofrio was right. Today, Bickell informed Wrotnowski that he was refusing to pass the emergency stay application on to Justice Ginsberg.
In a follow up phone call, Mr. Wrotnowski pointed out to Mr. Bickell that the issues he raised were properly briefed in the application and that it was the job of a Supreme Court Justices to make decisions of substantive law, not Mr. Bickell. Bickell then berated with mocking insults.
Mr. Wrotnowski has been through two lower courts and is now using our US Supreme Court rules to properly petition our Supreme Court for relief. This is outrageous and Mr. Bickell needs to be fired immediately and brought up on criminal charges for obstruction of justice, and possibly treason.
Courageously, Mr. Wrotnowski refused to back down and eventually Bickell said he would, reluctantly, docket the case.
As of 12:38 PM the case has not been docketed.
If you think that justice has been obstructed then please voice your opinions to the appropriate authorities. This is a very urgent issue which is now causing out entire system of justice to be overturned by a single clerk.
Mr. Wrotnowski
[UPDATE. WROTNOWSKI V. BYSIEWICZ, CONNECTICUT SECRETARY OF STATE
has been docketed, despite having initially been denied process by the SCOTUS stay clerk, Danny Bickell. Wrotnowskis case has been submitted to the Honorable Associate Justice, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Circuit Justice for the 2nd Circuit (includes Connecticut).
POSTED BY NATURAL BORN CITIZEN AT 9:12 AM
Below link to a nice picture of Cort- who saw Connecticut trot out some HEAVY lawyerly big guns for the little less-than-an-hour obfuscation finally at hands of State Supreme Court Head “Judge”:
http://americamustknow.com/connecticutcase.aspx
Thanks Val and js93.
This is driving me NUTS, Its NOT where the ...man... was born, its his IMMIGRATION STATUS that matters. He held Indonesian citizenship! You can’t be a dual citizen of any other country, or GIVE UP your citizenship and return and become President!
That is the Issue.
Then there is all the Illegal crap he has done.
Americans who voted for this man are just blindly stupid.
LD & CW were just on plainsradio again T’day eve ( I know because Joe Thunder said he had a turkey hangover!) & “Ken from Arkansas” again calls up, with LD thanking him profusely for ref’g this article on previous show. Except I hear previous show as being 11/25 as “this morning” CW got docketed w/ USSC & I’m sure its been now archived as 11/24. Also 11/21 show (pretty dang sure it was that’n) has Ed Hale rejecting Fox News request for show tapes because they ignored him before when he requested Fox News attention. I suggest contacting via FASTBLAST [no you dont have to go to forum as I suggested] on live feed/chat page at least to urge tapes go to Fox- and AT LEAST GET SHOWS ARCHIVED CLEARLY. Anybody seen error in archive? If so please email me. I really don’t think I’m losing my mind! Working solo here but...
WHATEVER THE CASE- THIS ARTICLE IS APPARENTLY WORTH ITS WEIGHT IN GOLD (with
serious comments). http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html#more
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2139442/posts
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