[Lancey Howard]

But governments surely do rise and they surely do fall. We’re on the way to a fall.

Yes they do, and apathy and moral decline are early warning symptoms. If George HW Bush was our Tiberius, and Bill Clinton our Caligula, then Dubya was Claudius and 0bama looks destined to be our Nero. Take away the Roman intrigue and the comparisons are amazing.

[arrogantsob]

Your Roman history is faulty if you believe those comparisons are accurate.