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To: Dukes Travels

Yes we DID win militarily in Iraq.

Like we won militarily in WW1 and WW2.

And it was a military victory we really needed. Saddam was a destabilizing menace who needed to be eliminted for an entire host of valid reasons.

But like WW1 and WW2, we lost the peace. We replaced an anit-western Baathist Dictator with a popularly elected anti-American Islamist “Decmocracy” (as closely as that term can be defined in the Islamic mind). The average Iraqi has come away from this experience with very little fondness or appreciation for what we did. This should not be a surprise as they are Muslims and we are not.

The Saudis came out ahead as did the Gulf Oil states, which, aside from use of a limited area for military staging, contributed not one dollar, not one soldier and not one life to struggle which greatly benefitted their own security.

And once we pull out of Iraq militarliy, it will relapse into the kind of mindless, anarchic, violent society typical of any Islamic polity unless a strong dictator comes along and imposes a degree of military stability on it.


4 posted on 11/24/2008 6:29:44 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
The average Iraqi has come away from this experience with very little fondness or appreciation for what we did.

That's not what I hear from soliers returning from there, but I suppose such a thing is difficult to quantify through anecdotes alone.

7 posted on 11/24/2008 6:49:11 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: ZULU

You’re living in the past. Nothing you just wrote comports with any of the facts on the ground in November, 2008 Iraq.


12 posted on 11/24/2008 7:59:24 AM PST by MNSlim
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