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Huck & Mitt: Dysfunctional Duo Needs to Just Go Away
Nietzche is Dead ^ | 23 Nov 08 | foutsc

Posted on 11/23/2008 10:37:09 AM PST by foutsc

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To: svcw

I’m not blaming Christians/ evangelicals. I’m blaming people who wouldn’t vote for him because he is a Mormon (plenty of those here on FR). Those that do so are not only bigots, but stupid ones at that. Unfortunately, many of those are Christians/ evangelicals, but by no means is it my intention to broad brush all Christians/ evangelicals (I am one).

And BTW, I love hearing those defend the logic that MR (who probably would have beaten the Obamination) is too liberal, but a communist muslim is OK. Enjoy now the fruits of that logic...you’re going to get the leadership you deserve.


81 posted on 11/24/2008 9:38:29 AM PST by rottndog (Government is a necessary Evil, but as with all evils, the less of it the better.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

If Palin and her supporters can’t stand honest scrutiny without getting thin-skinned about it, then here candidacy will fail as well.

I like Sarah Palin and I think she could be a contender next time, but she’s a politician, not a Messiah. Her views and experience are open to examination. Don’t fall into the Obamabot trap.

I did not criticize her, I merely made an observation. No need to get peevish.


82 posted on 11/24/2008 9:40:49 AM PST by foutsc (Nietzsche is Dead)
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To: rottndog; nobama08; svcw; greyfoxx39
I don’t see much of a future for the GOP when religious bigotry is part of strategic machinations behind the scene in party politics. [rottndog]

Religion is very important to a lot of people. I would never vote for a Muslim. Call me a bigot - I don’t care. [Nobama08]

Rottndog, you need to consult reality. (May I suggest a Rasmussen Report poll from late 2006? Then, you’d see once-and-for-all that voters taking “faith & beliefs” into consideration is hardly a rare deal) [see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1741561/posts

Excerpt from that thread: The Rasmussen Reports survey found that 35% say that a candidate's faith and religious beliefs are very important in their voting decision. Another 27% say faith and religious beliefs are somewhat important. Ninety-two percent (92%) of Evangelical Christian voters consider a candidate's faith and beliefs important. On the partisan front, 78% of Republicans say that a candidate's faith is an important consideration, a view shared by 55% of Democrats. However, there is also a significant divide on this topic within the Democratic Party. Among minority Democrats, 71% consider faith and religious beliefs an important consideration voting. Just 44% of white Democrats agree.

So, did you realize…
(1)…you’re calling 62% of the nation “bigots?” (add the 35% and 27% figures mentioned above) – ‘cause that’s how many told Rasmussen that a candidate’s faith is either very or somewhat important as a consideration? (Yes or no?)
(2)…you are also labeling as “bigots” a full 92% of Evangelical Christians who told Rasmussen they considered a candidate’s faith and beliefs an important consideration? (Yes or no?)
(3)…you’re also blasting away at the 78% of Republicans who said that a candidate’s faith & beliefs are an important consideration? (Yes or No?)
(4)…that even a majority of DEMOCRATS (55%) said that a candidate’s faith & beliefs are an important consideration? (Yes or No?)

I’m not blaming Christians/ evangelicals. I’m blaming people who wouldn’t vote for him because he is a Mormon (plenty of those here on FR). Those that do so are not only bigots, but stupid ones at that. Unfortunately, many of those are Christians/ evangelicals, but by no means is it my intention to broad brush all Christians/ evangelicals (I am one). [rottndog]

Listen, before you keep opening your mouth for more ignorance to spew forth as false ammo for those who disagree with Evangelicals, try also looking for data from Gallup poll people (Feb ’07).

Gallup Feb '07 data said that "conservative" voters were 9% more likely to vote for an LDS POTUS candidate than "liberal" voters; and 11% more likely than "moderate" voters. (I mean, give me a break! Why do you think McCain got the nod? ‘Cause all those moderates went for Romney? Not on your life!)

(In addition, 11% of Gallup’s expanded polling sample that month said, "No" that they would not vote for an LDS POTUS candidate...By the time you realize that probably half of them didn't vote or weren't Republicans to begin with -- either weren't registered, weren't registered as (R) or didn't turn out...and that most of them weren't conservatives, then the light finally turns on)

Now, let’s compare that to 1999, the year before Joe Lieberman was VP candidate: At that time, a Gallup poll said 8% would not vote for a Jewish POTUS candidate. 4% said they wouldn't vote for a Baptist POTUS candidate; and 21% in 2006 told the LA Times/Blomberg Poll that they wouldn't vote for an Evangelical POTUS candidate (though this poll’s “not vote” numbers were inflated across the board – not just for Evangelicals).

83 posted on 11/24/2008 12:33:09 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: DesertRhino
>>>Mitts foreign policy experience

He has traveled quite extensively over the globe for years in the business world. He has quite a bit of experience in that realm.

As for dealing with the possiblity of war with foreign nations, which is probably what you are really getting at, he follows his Dad's and Reagan's philosophy. "You can't a superpower military without a superpower economy". His dad George was responsible for the conversion of domestic automobile plants to manufacturing planes, tanks and bombs over 1/5th of the wartime material used in WWII. With our manufacturing plants about to go under it doesn't matter if we have a Hawk in the White House if there are no plants to build the tanks. During his time as Gov. of Mass. he also did quite a bit for upping National Gaurd and Veterans benefits.

84 posted on 11/24/2008 1:06:03 PM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: foutsc

Vanity


85 posted on 11/24/2008 1:10:51 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Don' need no steenkin' bipartisan..... Oops, have I failed to be "gracious" AGAIN?!!)
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To: Rameumptom
Dictator Romney's own experience to force gay marriage and socialized medicine down his servants mouths without a vote.

He is nothing but a Democrat in GOP-clothes with Obama-RomneyBOTs defending him.

Obama/Romney 2012

86 posted on 11/25/2008 2:52:44 AM PST by Diogenesis
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