Posted on 11/22/2008 11:54:21 AM PST by SgtSaunders
Through birth abroad to two United States citizens
In most cases, one is a U.S. citizen if both of the following are true:
Both parents were U.S. citizens at the time of the child's birth
At least one parent lived in the United States prior to the child's birth.
INA 301(c) and INA 301(a)(3) state, "and one of whom has had a residence." The FAM (Foreign Affairs Manual) states "no amount of time specified."
A person's record of birth abroad, if registered with a U.S. consulate or embassy, is proof of his or her citizenship. He or she may also apply for a passport or a Certificate of Citizenship to have his or her citizenship recognized.
Through birth abroad to one United States citizen
For persons born on or after November 14, 1986, a person is a U.S. citizen if all of the following are true:
One of the person's parents was a U.S. citizen when the person in question was born;
The citizen parent lived at least 5 years in the United States before his or her child's birth;
A minimum of 2 of these 5 years in the United States were after the citizen parent's 14th birthday.
A person's record of birth abroad, if registered with a U.S. consulate or embassy, is proof of his or her citizenship. Such a person may also apply for a passport or a Certificate of Citizenship to have a record of his or her citizenship. Such documentation is often useful to prove citizenship in lieu of the availability of an American birth certificate.
Different rules apply for persons born abroad to one U.S. citizen before November 14, 1986. United States law on this subject changed multiple times throughout the twentieth century, and the law as it existed at the time of the individual's birth.
“Maybe the conservative talk show people think we have a better chance of winning if they lay low”
This could be true. I hope it is, for the sake of my high regard for Rush................
There is a shred of truth here because if Sean Hannity went on a tear like he did about Rev Wright and Obama actually got refused the presidency by SCOTUS, Sean, would be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his short life.
Have you seen his US Passport?
No?
Neither have I.
THe people who breached his passport file were his operatives. They’re not going to reveal anything that damages their master. Haven’t you been reading these threads?
You know everything, Chief Engineer.
Fom an earlier thread and another FReeper:
“I was born in the US. My daughter was born in Heidelberg, Germany in 1970. We traveled to several countries and entered the US in 1973 on my passport. She was not required to have her own. The only requirement for her was that her picture was next to mine on my passport.”
No mention of taking babies to US Embassies for photographing.
In 1961 Kenya was still a British colony and if Ann had documents showing he was born in Kenya she could have used them to show the Customs officials upon landing in Vancouver. Driving across the border into the U.S. from Canada was neglible as far as showing documentation Customs might ask for the driver’s license but nothing more. Quite easy to show Canadian Customs officials British documents and be waved through Customs. All records from the former colony of Kenya would have been moved to London with the declaration on Kenyan independence in 1963. If I remember correctly the boxes upon boxes of documents are at Oxford.
Obama has three million plus who are ready to take marching orders to fulfill absolutely any request he makes. He would have millions more ready to follow them. If the conservative talk shows put the birth certificate into their daily mix, those three million plus will be called upon to make phone calls, organize protests, write letters, intimidate electoral college members, and stand at the doors of SCOTUS and Congress, ready to scream bloody murder and threaten total destruction. The MSM would adjudicate this whole issue and justice would have no chance to prevail. It is probably best we let sleeping dogs lie. This may well be a blessing in disguise.
Check Worldnet Daily today regarding Obamas birth certificate. They need our vote to investagate.
What strikes me is that all three (Obama, Clinton, and McCain) were accessed.
If the intent of the break-in strictly involved somehow falsifying Obama’s records to protect him from a citizenship issue, tampering with all three would have been a tactict to take the focus off of a political motive involving Obama in the event that they were later discovered.
Suitcase bombs? Does not seem very plausible to me.
But as to all those conservative pundits and even sites such as realclearpolitics scrubbing user-posted articles about the challenges... it is very, very quizzical.
About 250,000 men served as regulars or as militiamen for the Revolutionary cause in the eight years of the war, but there were never more than 90,000 total men under arms at one time.
Armies were small by European standards of the era; the greatest number of men that Washington personally commanded in the field at any one time was fewer than 17,000. This could be attributed to tactical preferences, but it also could be because of lack of powder on the American side.[4]
*snip*
Early in 1775, the British Army consisted of about 36,000 men worldwide, but wartime recruitment steadily increased this number.
Additionally, over the course of the war the British hired about 30,000 soldiers from German princes; these professional soldiers were generically called "Hessians" because many came from Hesse-Kassel.
*snip* Germans made up about one-third of the British troop strength in North America.
By 1779, the number of British and German troops stationed in North America was over 60,000, although these were spread from Canada to Florida.[10] About 10,000 Loyalist Americans under arms for the British are included in these figures.[11]"
Gee...I wonder why “shadow government” keeps popping into my mind! Hmmm...
Double hmmmm .........
It didn’t look good for Washington and his men but in the end the good guys won. America was worth the fight. It still is.
I did not say that the Embassy took my picture but simply that a picture of me was attached to her passport.
LOL I sure wish I did and maybe there wouldn’t be such a mess now! I have personal knowledge of how easy it was to go from B.C. into the U.S. but I have hit roadblocks into this particular case. There are just so many questions which remain unresolved. I will keep looking though.
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