Methinks, the SCOTUS is COMING!!!!
Posted on 11/20/2008 8:13:25 AM PST by Bill Dupray
It is my understanding that military bases are US soil.
When I checked into the Illinois election candidate request for office, the candidate has to simply sign a pledge of loyalty...of course, if this candidate is a liar...then it is meaningless...that’s why it is important to VERIFY their qualifications. I wonder how many non-citizens we have already elected.
The only offices requiring natural born are the President and Vice President. All other offices require just citizenship. The way the Constitution is worded it only takes common sense to know that there is a difference between natural born citizenship and citizenship...otherwise what is the point of being specific and stating natural born?
That was a great summation of the situation before SCOTUS.
Methinks, the SCOTUS is COMING!!!!
| No. 08-570 | ||||
| Title: |
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| Docketed: | October 31, 2008 | |||
| Lower Ct: | United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit |
| Case Nos.: | (08-4340) |
| Rule 11 |
| ~~~Date~~~ | ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Oct 30 2008 | Petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment filed. (Response due December 1, 2008) |
| Oct 31 2008 | Application (08A391) for an injunction pending disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter. |
| Nov 3 2008 | Supplemental brief of applicant Philip J. Berg filed. |
| Nov 3 2008 | Application (08A391) denied by Justice Souter. |
| Nov 18 2008 | Waiver of right of respondents Federal Election Commission, et al. to respond filed. |
| ~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ~~Phone~~~ |
| Attorneys for Petitioner: | ||
| Philip J. Berg | 555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12 | (610) 825-3134 |
| Lafayette Hill, PA 09867 | ||
| Party name: Philip J. Berg | ||
| Attorneys for Respondents: | ||
| Gregory G. Garre | Solicitor General | (202) 514-2217 |
| United States Department of Justice | ||
| 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. | ||
| Washington, DC 20530-0001 | ||
| Party name: Federal Election Commission, et al. | ||
Yes, totally.
Thanks! ;-)
“I want justice to prevail - no matter the outcome.”
Me too. If they just keep throwing these cases out without resolving it one way or the other this will go on for a very long time. What are we up to now 17?
If the constitution of the US is not worth defending against mob rule, then nothing is.
We must not allow the moral emphasis of this argument to be inverted. All this speculation, correct or not; has come about because this lying crypto-marxist thug from the most corrupt environs of leftist Chicago sewer politics has ascended to POTUS-elect status with the willing aquiescence of the MSM. The MSM was hell-bent on concealing this usurper’s background because they wanted him to be elected. Now, in a classic case of blame the messenger, those of us who belive in the constitution are being reviled for insisting that a POTUS comply with a basic requirement that most of us unhesitatingly conform with when seeking a driver’s license.
The arrogance and effrontery of this lying bastid is breathtaking. The founders knew that they were not natural born citizens, so they had to include language in Art II Sec 1 that exempted THEM. Does this fraud think that he is better than Washington, Madison, Adams, and Jefferson in that sense? Apparently he does, and with the acquiesence of enough people, he will suceed in usurping and corrupting the Executive Branch of government. This situation presents the very real posssibility of impelling this great nation beyond a constitutional crisis toward a civil war.
Finally, consider the implications of a man who would undertake these devious machinations to knowingly assume an office that he has no constitutional claim to, and than to see this same counterfeit president elect take an oath to defend that constitution. I believe that such a man would be willing to impose ANY sort or despotism or tyranny upon us to retain power.
I may be excessively optimistic, but I don’t think there’d be riots. I think blacks would feel extremely used and abused, because it would be obvious that they actually had been used and abused, and cynically manipulated by a foreign-born person with a suntan and the white radicals behind him. But I think it might perhaps lead to a moment of reconsideration. For one thing, it might make many blacks reconsider their loyalty to the Dems.
This is exactly why the Dems don’t want this to go any further.
In 10 days? Not likely.
Here ya’ go!
7 FAM 1131.4-2 Citizenship in Artificial and In Vitro
Insemination Cases
(TL:CON-68; 04-01-1998)
a. A child born abroad to a foreign surrogate mother who is the
natural/blood mother (i.e., who was the egg-donor) and whose claimed
father was a U.S. citizen is treated for citizenship purposes as a child born
out of wedlock. The procedures for proving citizenship under section
309(a) INA, as amended apply (see 7 FAM 1133.4-3 b). The blood
relationship between the child and the putative U.S. citizen father must
be proven. Additional evidence beyond the child’s birth certificate and
statement of the parents is required. Certification by appropriate medical
authorities of all facts and circumstances surrounding the entire
insemination procedure is required. Examples of appropriate supporting
documentation include hospital records from the facility where the sperm
donation was made, affidavit from the doctor who performed the
operation, and possibly blood tests.
b. A child born abroad to a foreign surrogate mother who was not the eggdonor
and whose claimed mother (egg-donor) and/or claimed father was
a U.S. citizen is treated for citizenship purposes either as a child born out
of wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother (if the sperm donor was not a U.S.
citizen) or as the child of two U.S. citizens. The applicable sections of law
generally are sections 309(c) and 301 INA.
c. The status of the surrogate mother is immaterial to the issue of
citizenship transmission. The child is considered the offspring of the
biological parents and the appropriate INA section is applied. Evidence to
establish the blood relationship between the child and the biological
parents would be similar to that mentioned in 7 FAM 1131.4-2 a.
You'll notice below, on Nov 18th, the FEC and the DNC (et al) waived their rights to respond. Meaning (to me), Obama is on his own because these 2 organizations did not vet Obama:
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| No. 08-570 | ||||
| Title: |
|
|||
| Docketed: | October 31, 2008 | |||
| Lower Ct: | United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit |
| Case Nos.: | (08-4340) |
| Rule 11 |
| ~~~Date~~~ | ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Oct 30 2008 | Petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment filed. (Response due December 1, 2008) |
| Oct 31 2008 | Application (08A391) for an injunction pending disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter. |
| Nov 3 2008 | Supplemental brief of applicant Philip J. Berg filed. |
| Nov 3 2008 | Application (08A391) denied by Justice Souter. |
| Nov 18 2008 | Waiver of right of respondents Federal Election Commission, et al. to respond filed. |
| ~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ~~Phone~~~ |
| Attorneys for Petitioner: | ||
| Philip J. Berg | 555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12 | (610) 825-3134 |
| Lafayette Hill, PA 09867 | ||
| Party name: Philip J. Berg | ||
| Attorneys for Respondents: | ||
| Gregory G. Garre | Solicitor General | (202) 514-2217 |
| United States Department of Justice | ||
| 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. | ||
| Washington, DC 20530-0001 | ||
| Party name: Federal Election Commission, et al. | ||
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I don't have a clue if there is going to be riots or not.
Above working link; referencing Post #113.
Berg’s suit is still in play correct? Perhaps the question was already answered in the thread and the answer awaits me, were I to look for it eh?
I gotta’ tell ya’, after reading the 2400+ post thread in total, I’m a little crispy. For sport, I’ve taken to reading the shorter threads backwards. Go easy on me will ya’, I’m the sensitive linebacker type. ;o)
Yes. Two cases are on the Supreme Court docket. One for Justice Souter and the other is the NJ case which is being handled by Justice Thomas.
BTTT
To reiterate: Berg's case is before Justice Souter... and Donofrio’s case is before Justice Thomas (of which I am very familiar).
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