Posted on 11/13/2008 3:42:08 AM PST by gaggs
At this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter's Clerk informed Philip J. Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Mr. Obama, his petition for an injunction to stay the Nov. 4 election was denied, but the clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari (which requires the concurrence of four Justices) by Dec. 1. At that time, Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after which Mr. Berg will respond.
If Mr. Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the justices, unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship.
"I can see a unanimous court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate," says Raymond S. Kraft, an attorney and writer. "They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution ..."
Also remember on Dec. 13, the Electoral College meets to casts its votes. If it has been determined Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to become President of the United States, the electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.
Only in that people may continue to file suits which go nowhere in the courts.
You could also reason that the electoral college in specific and the voting public in general, was defrauded by Obama as he represented himself as a eligible candidate(if the facts show he is not). At which time, allowing the electoral college to continue to operate under a known and perpetrated fraud would require relief.
I say it all depends on how much heat the Supreme Court is willing to take.
I say, “Are you ready to rumble?”
Even if it isn't, it is a question that should be answered by every presidential candidate if asked. Doesn't it strike you as odd that everyone knows what the Constitution says as the requirements for a candidate are, but no one has figured out yet who has standing to ascertain them?
We've never had a candidate before whose background made any one even ask the question. Whether it is true or not for this candidate, the issue should be addressed.
If Obama is somehow disqualified after the Electors cast their votes, then the votes for him would be invalid. Since John McCain didn’t get a majority, then the House of Representatives would have to decide the election.
Here’s the kicker: Amendment 12 says that when the House decides an election, they muct decide it from the candidates who receieve electoral votes, with a maximum of three candidates. In other words, the House cannot insert its own candidate. If all of the Democratic Electors vote for Obama, and all the GOP Electors vote for McCain, then when the House decides, McCain will be the only name on the ballot. The result: a McCain-Biden Administration.
Now, there could be some question inregards to Amendment 20. Joe Biden and the Democrats could claim that Obama became President-elect when the Electors cast their votes. Since he was disqualied, under Amendment 20, Joe Biden becomes President. He would then appoint a Vice-President.
The one ray of sunshine in all of this.
A morelikely scenario.
There is another birth certificate suit launched by the patriotbrigade.com website:
http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/archives/186
I listened to Lam’s internet radio show last night and he sounded indignant with Berg and Walker. I don’t believe Lam thinks they are being transparent with their donations. The guy from New Jersey implies the same thing about them. Lam suggested he has ‘big’ name behind his suit which will be revealed soon.
There were other less then favorable things said by Lam about Beg and Walker. I don’t know if they are true.
Is one of these players a disinformation operative? That’s my guess.
That assumes of course that Biden gets the Majority of the VP votes from the Electoral College which votes separately for Vice President rather then for the whole ticket.
He could theoretically only win his home state in that vote.
And a the Court defines an authentic BC as???
THAT has been my question all along.
With the technology availabe today plus the many many individuals willing to do whatever Obama wants, it would be NOTHING for him to have someone “create” a BC with a raised seal and plant it where it needs to be planted in Hawaii. Why haven’t they done that yet?
I’d actually rather have Hillary than Obama.
Ok, I just threw up in my mouth a little....
You said — “LOL! You people amaze me! do you have any other sources or evidence other than on a spurious blog this “news” is even true?”
The one thing that is true is that no one has been able to produce the original birth certificate and no one really *knows* if Obama is qualified under the Constitution. They only “guess” that he is...
This needs to go on and on and on without ever stopping, even if it goes on throughout an entire Presidency — until — there is some mechanism in place in order to verify and produce to the public the original birth certificate to prove one’s eligibility under the Constitution...
Have you seen this petition against Obama asking the government to require him to prove that he is an American citizen? Please check it our at the enclosed site (and note how many signatures there are):
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
The real question:
Do the Supremes have the cojones to uphold the Constitution knowing full well that riots will break out in every city in the country?
simple question Since Obama chose Biden and he wasn’t nominated for the position should he even be considered if Obama is removed because he was a fraudulent candidate?
And would the other democrat candidate, the one that lost the nomination to the various means that Obama used to prevent her from being nominated then claim that she was denied her place on the ballot because of the methods Obama used to secure it????
What relief could the Supreme Court grant? The Constitution does not provide for a new election. Do you want an activist court to take over the selection and qualification process? The Supreme Court is not going to get involved in this case, as I opined above. The Congress is empowered by the 12th Amendment to make the final decision. Any concerns should be addressed in a petition to the next Congress not to the courts.
We'd also need some mechanism to ensure that the candidates were present at least 14 years in the United States. How do we maintain a registry of physical presence? (In Germany everyone has to register with the local police within ten days of a change of address. They keep good records. And if suddenly if Jewishness or heteorsexuality becomes illegal they know where all the new-criminals live.)
Well, that suggestion is liable to scare the hell out of many people... LOL...
I prefer only knowing some basic qualification for the President of the United States, according to the Constitution... :-)
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