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1 posted on 11/10/2008 6:30:13 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I thought I just saw in the paper a day or two ago that they asked Senator Byrd to step down??


2 posted on 11/10/2008 6:34:58 PM PST by Lilpug15 (GIRD YOUR LOINS!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; LucyT; Kevmo; SE Mom; Calpernia

So courts are saying that individual citizens have no standing. In Seattle, the court ruled that the Secretary of Washington State is not responsible for confirming eligibility. The FEC claims it has no responsibility or obligation to do so. The DNC says it cannot be forced to verify his eligibility. Now the electoral college poobahs say its not for them to check out.

WTF is going on here???


3 posted on 11/10/2008 6:35:08 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What are the chances that a senator and a representative would even consider bringing it up? No reply necessary.


4 posted on 11/10/2008 6:35:40 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Byrd stepped down from his senate seat


5 posted on 11/10/2008 6:35:58 PM PST by TinaJeannes
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Altho the possibilities of this monster being an illegal alien are apparently strong, is this still an issue, or are we going to let a foreign national take over our government?

Is there any meat on this bone or is this wishful thinking, you know, like indicting Hillary for obstruction of justice, looting a murder scene, grand theft, perjury, suborning perjury, and the like?

Are the Rats going to get away with this unvetted punk taking over our government?


6 posted on 11/10/2008 6:36:28 PM PST by laweeks
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; george76; Polarik; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...

Thanks for posting this, Free ThinkerNY.

Ping.


10 posted on 11/10/2008 6:38:56 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is going to be decided de facto unless someone acts. I have commented on this issue many times and made the point that I believed it needed to be addressed at the state level because elections are administered by the states.

Now here is another way to address the issue, and that is as the response suggests to get one senator and one member of the House to bring it up as an objection to one state’s electoral votes.

What is needed is a Good constitutional lawyer to take on the issue of Obama’s eligibility and figure out the best way to resolve it and either prove he is eligible, or get him disqualified.


14 posted on 11/10/2008 6:42:52 PM PST by FFranco
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If the elected officials of the states and elsewhere are not up to the job of doing their duty to follow the laws of this nation, then Obamanation is NOT OUR PRESIDENT!!! Talk about passing the buck. If they can’t verify, then he is NOT OUR PRESIDENT.

He can NOT represent us if he is NOT a citizen. PERIOD.

NO taxation without TRUE representation. Passive civil disobedience will be called for if this continues.


15 posted on 11/10/2008 6:45:10 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just so thye Blacks and kids and losers don’t RIOT!


18 posted on 11/10/2008 6:50:49 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Speaking of the Electoral College ... This may be a shot in the dark but what do any Freepers think of Sarah Palin getting an electoral vote from a disenchanted Republican elector for the way she’s been treated by the McCain people? Could it happen? If it did wouldn’t she be the first ever woman to get an electoral vote? John Edwards got a vote in 2004, Lloyd Bentson got one in 1988 and Ronald Reagan received one in 1976. It’s happened before. Does anyone think that it could happen again? Just a thought here ... Heck, it’s only trivial at this point and it would look good in her run-up to the 2012 Election.


23 posted on 11/10/2008 7:00:34 PM PST by chippewaman
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Uh, guys the President of the Senate is Dick Cheney, the Vice President. Byrd may have been President Pro Temp.

And, of course, this office petitioned has no authority in such a matter.


27 posted on 11/10/2008 7:04:51 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The key issue before the SC will be whether or not Berg, or indeed, any citizen has standing. Scalia wrote the defining decision in this case in Lujan v Defenders of Wildlife:

Over the years, our cases have established that the irreducible constitutional minimum of standing contains three elements: First, the plaintiff must have suffered an "injury in fact"— an invasion of a legally-protected interest which is (a) concrete and particularized, see id., at 756, 104 S.Ct., at 3327; Warth v. Seldin, 422 U.S. 490, 508, 95 S.Ct. 2197, 2210, 45 L.Ed.2d 343 (1975); Sierra Club v. Morton, 405 U.S. 727, 740-741, n. 16, 92 S.Ct. 1361, 1368-1369, n. 16, 31 L.Ed.2d 636 (1972);1 and (b) "actual or imminent, not 'conjectural' or 'hypothetical,' " Whitmore, supra, 495 U.S., at 155, 110 S.Ct., at 1723 (quoting Los Angeles v. Lyons, 461 U.S. 95, 102, 103 S.Ct. 1660, 1665, 75 L.Ed.2d 675 (1983)). Second, there must be a causal connection between the injury and the conduct complained of—the injury has to be "fairly . . . trace[able] to the challenged action of the defendant, and not . . . th[e] result [of] the independent action of some third party not before the court." Simon v. Eastern Kentucky Welfare Rights Org., 426 U.S. 26, 41-42, 96 S.Ct. 1917, 1926, 48 L.Ed.2d 450 (1976). Third, it must be "likely," as opposed to merely "speculative," that the injury will be "redressed by a favorable decision." Id., at 38, 43, 96 S.Ct., at 1924, 1926.

Unlike merely standing for election, the actual swearing in of a constitutionally unqualified candidate, I would think is a particularized injury to each and every citizen who granted limited powers to the government under the constitution, it is imminent, and it can be redressed by a favorable decision of the Supreme Court.

But, it will be interesting to see Scalia's take on this.

28 posted on 11/10/2008 7:04:58 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s above their pay grade.


30 posted on 11/10/2008 7:10:45 PM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We are in some sort of wide-spread collapse of social responsibility. It’s like a Dr Who episode. Only there’s no Dr. Who.


35 posted on 11/10/2008 7:28:31 PM PST by bvw
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Could someone please ask Ms. Geller how her reader Jason could possibly e-mail all the electors, when hardly anyone knows their names, yet alone their individual e-mail addresses?
52 posted on 11/10/2008 7:50:37 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Clemenza

Wouldn’t an elector have status to sue to see the original birth certificate?


85 posted on 11/10/2008 8:12:13 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

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136 posted on 11/11/2008 7:02:13 AM PST by The Mayor ( In Gods works we see His hand; in His Word we hear His heart)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

thanks LucyT.

NJ Voter Vs. Obama On “Natural Born Status” Now Pending Us Supreme Court
Democratic-Disaster.com | 11-10-2008
Posted on 11/10/2008 8:27:51 PM PST by virgin
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Obama Presidency Challenged By New Jersey Voter
re:”natural born citizen” - Before US Supreme Court
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Posted on 11/10/2008 8:51:09 PM PST by Ballygrl
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Mombasa Imam who confirmed Obama’s birth place arrives in the UK
African Press International (API) | November 9, 2008
Posted on 11/11/2008 1:51:09 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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Why is a SCOTUS clerk trying to Stop NJ Case Against Obama birth certificate?
Democrat Disaster.com | 11-11-2008 | Frantzie
Posted on 11/11/2008 8:13:23 AM PST by Frantzie
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2130066/posts

-last poli-ping for the day, so some humor-

The Renegade Is Loose. We Repeat, the Renegade Is Loose.
Yahoo! Buzz | November 11, 2008 | Mike Krumboltz
Posted on 11/11/2008 12:49:14 PM PST by americanophile
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146 posted on 11/11/2008 4:18:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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154 posted on 11/12/2008 7:49:23 PM PST by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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