Posted on 10/21/2008 3:04:54 PM PDT by Jenny Hatch
Sorry, it needs to be a hospital or birthing center, for the sake and rights of the CHILD.
“Pre-natal screening and a hospital back up plan are vital.”
One of the main reasons that I morphed to UC Birth (Unassisted Birth) is because of the scripture in Matthew 24:19 when Jesus Apostles came to him and asked him for the “signs of the times” for when he would return again. His own words were “Woe unto them that are with child and give suck in those days”.
I believe the woe is two fold. One, medical birth has a host of traumas associated with it for both the mother and the baby. Two, we are at a time in our history when medical care as we know it in 21st century in America, may not always be available for us and our children.
I learned mothering self sufficiency for both reasons and it comforts my heart to have these skills.
Jenny
“I had severe toxemia and my organs were shutting down.”
Toxemia is a disease of malnutrition. Here is a link to a web site that can educate you on how to prevent it with any future children!
http://home.mindspring.com/~djsnjones/index.html
The medicos have completely dissed the Brewer Diet for the prevention of Toxemia, but I would challenge you to just try it if you have any more children. It is the key to a healthy baby.
Jenny
I knew I could rely on my husband to deliver a calf ... but not babies.
To the hospital for us.
And I would have died from a VBAC. My uterine wall was so thin at one point near the incision that my doctor joked that he could read a newspaper through it. And I was counseled not to have any more children after that second c-section...for obvious reasons.
Also, my daughter gave birth in the hospital with a doula and a midwife, and she had an absolutely wonderful experience.
Some people like the idea of dead babies and dead mothers I guess.
I have seen a lot of "Freebirthing" and I have seen dead babies and dead mommies that need not have been. I always thought of all the wonders of America the fact that there simple act of having a baby did not mean a high chance of dying was one of the greatest.
But you are free to choose to squat and give birth on to a dirt floor if you like. Me I am going to stick with the way that protects the health of my child and use a hospital.
I testify that you are a nut.
**Toxemia is a disease of malnutrition. **
That’s a myth. The truth is this, Jenny. No medical professional knows with absolute certainty, what causes toxemia. But, 100% natural type of folks claim they do but in the end it’s a farce, just like chiropractic (while maintaining certain benefits) curing the common cold. I’m sure your response was full of good intentions but you answered in the way I assumed you would.
I won’t be having any more children because not only am I 50 years old, but I had a hysterectomy after too many years of invasive endometriosis. My daughter now has that disease. I’m sure you’ll have fun with the causes of endo now.
By posting this thread I’m sure you know you open yourself up to differing opinions. Count me in as one of them.
If I had freebirthed my first born, he would have possibly died.
With my second child, we barely made it to the hospital in time and she could have been delivered by her father in the backseat of the car.
Each pregnancy is different and deliveries can vary wildly.
To not avail yourself to all medical precautions in case of an emergency is foolhardy.
Years ago women would die frequently in childbirth. That is rare today because medical intervention is possible.
If a obstetrician is not deemed necessary during birth, how can one rightly advocate for prenatal care? The argument could turn to just letting nature take its course during the development of the baby. In my view, that is irresponsible.
How beautiful it was too! I am past child bearing years and are reaping the consequences physically connected to hospital decisions in my child bearing experiences. Briefly, I would like to bring up a couple points that happened to me.
1)induced without as much as an ultrasound to be sure I could safely pass my child. After 36 plus hours of hard labor, she was quite literally pulled out of me. My back was injured from my baby bouncing from spine to pelvic bone and came out with her head ripped up..quite literally. I ended up with caged fusion on lower spine later in life that I attribute to the situation because it was in the exact area that I felt deep burning with labor pounding back and forth. I guess, nobody is perfect but you would think common sense would have played a part to prohibit this kind of thing.
2)I lost a full term baby simply because they told me it was “commonly called pregnancy” when I told them my baby was convulsing inside me. She died within 6 hours of them sending me home.
3)I allowed no intervention, drugs or evaluations and had a healthy little girl. BTW, not once has a doctor delivered me..they always seem to leave when that time comes.
You mentioned that your body knows what to do and I cannot agree with you more. Of course as in all things, there are exceptions and things may not turn out the way you wanted but I bet that happens more in hospital than home. This is my analogy although not so pretty. When you go through transition (time just before the birth) the process is taken over by your body. It is like what your body does when it needs to expel something you consumed like bad food and you bring it right back up and fast. You cannot prevent it...slow it down...speed it up or stop. Your body takes over.
I was so surprised how quiet it was when you gave birth through this transition. I have never screamed but the strong muscles at work was like a bearing down, pushing without me so I sounded like I was pushing on my own but was not. How on earth did you get around that? (again like heaving from expelling bad food..do you do that without a sound too?)
I have watched on t.v. the hours of required pushing that by the time the baby came, the mother was out of it. That benefits no one but the hospital in most cases.
Your a beautiful person and I feel strongly that God placing you here at this time is no mistake. Your family is beautiful as well.
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