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To: connell

I’m of the opinion that the author is essentially correct. So are the posters who say that it is a very one-sided war, so far.

This is a cultural war, between those who value individual liberty and minimal government (us) and those who crave receiving the benefit of the productive activities of others for “free” and the heavy hand of government to ensure that everyone stays in line.

IOW, this isn’t a new conflict in human history - but it is new to our shores. As is usually the case, those who are power-hungry have a plan, one that has been in place for a long time (with modifications to fit somewhat changing circumstances over time, but with the goal unchanged). Part of the plan is to keep the opposition asleep at the switch, and that has largely succeeded.

I see Obama’s election (should he win) to be the culmination of decades of work by the other side’s faithful. He will, in short order, begin the dismantling of the USA as we know it. Not is a physical sense, of course, but culturally. He’ll ban free speech - with some kind and soothing words about “fairness” etc. - and by having some of his minions threaten to pull the broadcast license of any TV or radio station that would runs ads or shows contrary to the approved fare - behind closed doors, of course. It wouldn’t do to let the cattle know that they’re headed directly to the slaughterhouse.

Guns in civilian hands are, of course, the ultimate tool for resistance - and they will simply have to go. Not all at once - that’d be the spark to set off a hot war real fast, not what BHO or his masters (like Soros) want.

Here’s what I believe will happen if BHO is elected (by hook, crook or riot):

1. Shortly after taking office, BHO will ban all imports of firearms, ammo, gun parts and ammo components. He’ll also quietly start pressuring gun and ammo (& parts and components) producers to enter into exclusive contracts with the fed.gov or various state agencies, as in “You WILL agree to sell nothing to civilians, and in return we’ll buy all of your production (up to certain limits) to guarantee you large profits - either that, or we’ll sign a contract with your competitor and buy nothing from you. Capiche?” Ordnances will be passed to severely restrict the number and location of FFLs and ranges, and even if gun shows aren’t outlawed the BATFE will openly film every license plate and take pictures of every person entering the grounds/building. No one will want to go. Licensing fees and new taxes will be imposed - small, at first, merely symbolic...but they’ll quickly escalate to the point where 95% of present gun owners won’t be able to afford to keep or shoot them (not legally, anyway). Of course, the fed.gov will offer you some money and a pat on the back if you turn in what you’ve got (which they’ll largely know because of the 4473s that they’ve copied.

2. The “Fairness Doctrine” will be enacted by the Dem Congress and signed into law very fast. Say goodbye to Rush, Hannity, Savage, Prager, Medved, Ingraham, etc., etc. - unless they lease/buy a ship that broadcasts from offshore. Even with such a ship or several, look for some mysterious accidents, or some “righteous indignation” attacks. Before anything, opposition must be silenced.

3. There will be a “Reichstag Fire” incident perpetrated by a “member of the NRA.” Either that, or the economy will be so bad that it’ll be an “emergency.” Both ways, we get Congress passing vast and sweeping emergency powers for BHO - temporary, of course, just like Hitler’s powers after the actual Reichstag Fire were temporary.

4. Yet more legislation or edicts will be passed/handed down to effectively outlaw gun ownership. Mandatory registration, for example which, if not complied with, will give offenders a long stay at the federal graybar hotel plus lots of fines plus a permanent record. Those not complying within a certain timeframe will be guilty of a felony for each gun not registered, and will be gradually rounded up via traffic stops, etc. Informants will be paid handsomely.

5. Troops will come home per Presidential order very soon...troops with signifant experience in urban and counter-insurgency warfare. The SOB will use them against hardcore holdouts (if the local SWAT guys aren’t enough).

At some point, individuals and small groups will begin to resist. This will result in overwhelming force being brought in to quell the “criminals” or “traitors.” This reaction will, in turn, fuel an ever larger resistance. The major question will be: What will the armed forces do? If they follow orders, then we’re sunk. If they refuse, liberty will ultimately win - but don’t be surprised if foreign “peacekeepers” are brought in. I would hope for some states to secede, but I don’t think it likely.

Bottom line: the Left is fighting for keeps - permanent keeps. I believe that they (and specifically BHO and his masters) will ruthlessly destroy all opposition in any way possible. Folks, we’re IN a new Civil War, just not yet at the hot stage. The old order is already gone (it basically lost when Reagan picked Bush 41 as his Veep), and we’re at the equivalent stage of old Russia after the Czar abdicated. McCain is Kerensky, BHO is Lenin. Let’s hope that this time Kerensky doesn’t lose his nerve and actually FIGHTS for his country - because it didn’t work out so well the last time around.


113 posted on 10/15/2008 10:13:32 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: Ancesthntr
3. There will be a “Reichstag Fire” incident perpetrated by a “member of the NRA.” Either that, or the economy will be so bad that it’ll be an “emergency.” Both ways, we get Congress passing vast and sweeping emergency powers for BHO - temporary, of course, just like Hitler’s powers after the actual Reichstag Fire were temporary.

OMG, you are so right! I've been comparing Nobama to Hitler for 20 months now, all my liberal co-workers say it's ME who is the Nazi. We who will be laughing (crying, actually) when we're proven right.
116 posted on 10/15/2008 11:03:23 AM PDT by rick_p_stedman
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To: Ancesthntr

That’s a plausible scenario.

One more reason to BLOAT like hell.


127 posted on 10/15/2008 3:24:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Ancesthntr
5. Troops will come home per Presidential order very soon...troops with signifant experience in urban and counter-insurgency warfare. The SOB will use them against hardcore holdouts...

I wouldn't count on that one working out quite the way the SOB planned.

148 posted on 10/16/2008 8:36:41 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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