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The Second American Civil War Is Underway
Modern Conservative ^ | Christopher Cook

Posted on 10/15/2008 6:21:56 AM PDT by connell

By Christopher Cook

Friends, conservatives, countrymen,

It's time to recognize a basic fact: We are in a civil war. It is obviously not the civil war of pitched battles and 600,000 dead. It is a low-grade—but omnipresent—political and social conflict, and though it is not an open war, it does involve violence.  

Of course, only one side is fighting it as a war. The left sees every area of society as a battleground, and they will use any and every tactic at their disposal—including violence—to achieve their aims.

This is, of course, nothing new, and before we can talk about recent violence and other criminal events—and the possibility of a dramatic escalation thereof—we have to take a quick look at history.

Using a bird's-eye view of American history, one sees a disturbing trend: The Democrats and the left (once different, now synonymous) have been waging a civil war against Republicans since the end of the last one in 1865.


By 2004, the trend was well-established. Shots were being fired into GOP headquarters. Thugs were breaking into offices and physically assaulting the workers therein. Vandalism was widespread, threats were common, and battery was on the rise.

Looking at this trend required this author to ask a question: Was there an equivalent coming from our side?

I did some research—admittedly cursory at first, and then more thoroughly. I will readily confess that I did not have the time to perform the kind of research that, say, someone like John Lott would perform to get a complete statistical picture in pursuit of a book on the subject (though this is something that Modern Conservative will be doing soon.) Nonetheless, I was unable to find any coherent trend of political violence directed from the right at the left. Plenty the other direction, though, which led to my first exploration of this subject, titled Democrats are more violent. In fact, there's no comparison.

Research continued, and it led to more discoveries. Among them was that this violence was nothing new; it has its roots in Reconstruction and the (first) Civil War.

Indeed, I learned that Democrat anger at the election of Republicans—and their willingness to use physical street violence and destruction of property to express that anger—goes all the way back to the election of Lincoln. The election of the very first Republican president was an occasion for street thuggery on the part of the Democrats, and little appears to have changed.

During Reconstruction, we saw the worst massacres in American history—perpetrated by Democrats against Republicans. Hundreds of Republicans, whites and blacks, were slaughtered by Democrats for the crime of being Republicans. Thus, it was greatly frustrating to hear the Virginia Tech massacre, horrific though it was, described as "the worst massacre in American history." It wasn't even close, and saying it was was either the result of laziness or revisionism—not surprising, given the fact that media, nearly all Democrats, certainly would not want to call attention to their bloodthirsty history.

More research led to shocking realizations about presidential assassinations and attempts, and about just how low some lefty thugs feel compelled to go.

Again, this research is less than 100% comprehensive. Nonetheless, the record is disturbing. The Democrats/left display an ongoing willngness to use violence against Republicans. No appreciable equivalent appears to come from Republicans.


Enter 2008.

Added to all this history is a new phenomenon: The left has a new quasi-messianic figure, around whom a crazed and cultish movement is growing. As a part of this developing cult of personality, several trends have arisen which, when added to the low-grade civil war we are discussing, offer disturbing possibilities for the future. There is even a vibe developing that is chillingly reminiscent of the rise of 20th century fascists like Mussolini and Hitler.

Added to that are other activities and trends that make for the possibility of a grim ride for America—and specifically for those who oppose Barack Obama—in the near future. Quoting from the afore-linked article:


Recently, Republican rage at this trendline—and at the notion that a candidate who appears to be nothing more than a creation of the radical left is actually ahead in the polls—has boiled over into a few comments at a few McCain-Palin rallies. A few comments. A few times.

Of course, the media has seen this and decided to suggest that a rage-fueled right wing fascism is about to swamp the country. Meanwhile—and without any shame whatsoever—they ignore ACTUAL violence, threats, crime, and intimidation coming from the left. They ignore the fact that while John McCain is trying to decry what little is coming from his supporters, Barack Obama appears to be tacitly encouraging much worse behavior from his.


This situation is being discussed with great intensity right now in the dextrosphere. Rather than attempt to repeat what is already being said—and said brilliantly and with citation and sourcing—we will aggregate some of those discussions here. Read them. Familiarize yourself with what is really going on:

As always, Michelle Malkin is the cream of the crop:
Crush the Obamedia narrative: Look who’s “gripped by insane rage”

Vandals strike York County GOP headquarters

Libs Threaten to Beat & Kill Sarah Palin... Media Silent

"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to . . ."

You may know someone who doesn't think William Ayers matters.

NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE?

Hope, Change and Molotov Cocktails

How’s that reaching out working, John?

James Joyner: “McCain Supporters Angry! Mean! Scary!” Or Did He Mean Obama Supporters?

Obama supporters call Palin a "c*nt." Where is the media?

On the Ownership of Gored Oxen

Memo to Leftist Elitists: Look at Hatred Within

Which party is the party of rage?

Are the Angry GOP Protesters Just More of the Same-- Leftist Tools?

MORE ON THOSE “ANGRY, RACIST GOP MOBS”

Obama Rallies Turn Ugly

And a reminder from 2006 . . .
It's Time to Act


Look at the links above regarding recent trends. Read the analysis and historical information linked earlier. Put it all together with what you are seeing with your own eyes here in 2008. Is it a full-blown, hot war? No. But look at the trends. Look at who does what to whom. Look how it is reported, and look who is tacitly calling for more.


Now . . .

Imagine a scenario where Obama loses a close election. You think violence will end at that point, or increase?

Worse still, imagine a scenario where Obama wins, and the margin of his victory is ACORN's vote fraud. When we go into the street to protest this fraud—and we would—what do you think will happen to us? And who will the media portray as the perpetrators and the victims?


No matter what happens, we're looking at trouble with a capital T.

 

To all decent Americans (especially those in the "middle"):

Please recognize the truth of this. I know that the media, Hollywood, and academia have woven a fog so thick that the truth is barely discernible. But please, try to peer through the mist and see that this is not a two-sided situation. While there is the occasional incident from the right, all evidence is pointing to the idea that the ratio of the left as perpetrators of political violence to the right as perpetrators is 100 to 1. (The same appears to be the case for voter fraud, by the way, but that is another issue.)

Is this what you want in America? A political climate with one side using violence, crime, and threats against the other side? A media that works, shills, and lies for one side rather than just reporting the facts?

 

To the media, who aid and abet everything the left does—who covers for their every criminal, violent, and threatening act, while fibricating™ a reality where Republicans are the culprits:

What, you think they won't come for you eventually?

You think that just because you're on the left and you want the left to have more power, that you won't end up on their target list when that power has sufficiently expanded?

You think it was just an isolated anomaly that the Senate threatened ABC's broadcast license because it was about to air something they didn't like? Think again. Get them more power, and that'll be just the beginning.

 

To the left:

We're on to you. While we have no interest in being like you, we will not sit idly by any more while you use threats, vandalism, and assault and battery as a mode of political "speech."

 . . . while you fire shots into our campaign headquarters.

 . . . while you punch handicapped girls in wheelchairs because you disagree with her parents' politics.

 . . . while you throw molotov cocktails at our homes, cut our brake lines, and threaten our children.  

. . . and while your presidential candidate uses subtle code to endorse a climate where these attacks become a tool in his campaign and his vision for America.

 


To conservatives and Republicans:

Make no mistake, this is a war.

Since they're going to say we're the bad guys whether we fight back or not, we might as well fight back.

Since those who "buy ink by the barrel" have already picked a fight with us—and are waging that fight with extreme prejudice—we might as well fight the media too (are you listening, GOP candidates and elected officials?).

They'll punch you in the nose, huck a molotov cocktail on your lawn, and then call you a racist and a fascist for complaining about it. They'll perpetrate violence upon you and then say you're the violent one. Only one question remains:

Are you going to sit back and take it?

We are not like the left. We are not perfect, but we are not like them. This means that we do not behave like them, even in the face of this unremitting, low-level onslaught. Yes, we have the occasional miscreant, the occasional deviation from decency, and to those among our ranks who perpetrate such acts, we say please, check yourselves before you wreck yourselves

But for every one of ours like that, there are 100 or more of theirs. Their acts have tacit official endorsement and gain cover from the media. It's very likely to get worse, and if we don't start responding, it will serve as an invitation for more. Use every tool at your disposal—short of violence (unless your health and safety are directly threatened)—to respond. 

The Founders did not their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honors to create an America that looks like this.


Conservatives, this has to be a call to arms. You didn't start this fight, but by God, you can finish it.



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To: CodeToad
Considering the racist hatred shown by blacks

Some folks with very dark skin are actual conservatives ... and post on this forum ... even on this very thread.

I haven't noticed any racism spewing from them.

Of course, they're not 0bama supporters.

81 posted on 10/15/2008 8:05:04 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: connell

Unfortunately, states rights died just outside a small, whistestop town in Pennsylvania, during an overcast and unusually cool July. It took the Feds three days to finish the job.


82 posted on 10/15/2008 8:09:00 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: Marie
Dividing what from what? The Civil War was easy: the Mason-Dixon Line clearly marked one side vs. the other. We don't have such a line this time.

Your kidding right? Compare these two maps: It is both ironic and creepy:


83 posted on 10/15/2008 8:13:13 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: connell
All the way back to Lincoln?

WTF are we waiting for?

84 posted on 10/15/2008 8:15:38 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: CodeToad
I like to think of it as “Might is Right”. The South just had less might, but not anymore. The liberal north is weak and morally corrupt and has lost its manufacturing that gave it the advantage in the Civil War.

Winners write history. If the American Revolution had failed, George Washington and the rest of the Founding Fathers would have been tried for treason and executed by the British. We would have been taught in elementary school about their evil acts and how much better off we are as part of the British Empire.

Jack

85 posted on 10/15/2008 8:17:33 AM PDT by JackOfVA
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To: Former Dodger

“So, there’s the choice:
*Civil disorder, mostly in Urban areas if BHO loses, or
*Civil War in America, with secession a possibility, as well as violence, if he wins”.

Good post. I have been saying this myself for sometime now.

It seems plain to me, and I have checked my thinking on this, ruling out emotion, etc.

I do believe that there is opportunity here. Leadership is required, and I don’t mean elected officials.

Hopefully, the cure will not be worse than the disease.

God help us anyway.


86 posted on 10/15/2008 8:18:36 AM PDT by alarm rider (Peace! through superior fire power....)
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To: puroresu

“The Nation’s demographics are changing, with Democrats now taking several states that were once solid GOP”.

Demographics are the key to the whole GOP problem. Middle class Whites (The basic block of the Party) are becoming a smaller percentage of the Electorate each four year election cycle.
Even here in the Conservative bastion of Texas, Whites are already a minority and it’s only a matter of time until we turn a dark Blue. (Unless by some miracle we start getting 51% of the Hispanic vote) After that electoral disaster how will the Pubbies ever win a National Election?


87 posted on 10/15/2008 8:20:03 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: connell
I read the article which goes to great lengths (mostly unnecessary) to prove its point, but it has been obvious to anyone watching that the two Americas are completely incompatible. Like a bad marriage, the only question left is when and how the separation will occur.

I think it's gone too far to be settled peacefully. If we're lucky, we'll get a chance to separate violently. If not, there will be re-education camps, and they will be filled with white, Christian conservatives.

88 posted on 10/15/2008 8:21:27 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: connell

Nothing has changed about Democrats since the 1840’s when that awful racist Martin Van Buren was president. They love slavery, they just disguise it better in these “politically correct” times.


89 posted on 10/15/2008 8:23:21 AM PDT by rick_p_stedman
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Truth is fear is real and the Obama is dangerous.


90 posted on 10/15/2008 8:24:00 AM PDT by Broker (VOTE McCain/Palin! !)
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To: Broker

BTTT


91 posted on 10/15/2008 8:29:12 AM PDT by alarm rider (Peace! through superior fire power....)
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To: puroresu

You are one insightful Guy! Your take on our Northern Brethren comparing the Democratic Party of today with that of the 19th Cenury Dems is spot on.
They can’t get it through their heads that the Consservative Southern Republicans are merely the Old Conservative Democrats turned GOP.


92 posted on 10/15/2008 8:29:13 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: puroresu
Oh, yes, and I should have commented on this aspect: The constant attempt around here to link modern, far left, totalitarian, multiculturalist Democrats with the Democrats of the post-Civil War era is beyond bizarre

I find it more bizarre that people try to link the pro-slavery Democrats of the Civil War era with modern conservatism. There is absolutely nothing to admire in a bunch of politically-minded slaveholders attempting a power grab against the wishes of the majority of their countrymen.

Democrats, whether they be Jefferson Davis or B. Obama, have always tended to believe in government of the nonproductive by the nonproductive, for the nonproductive.

93 posted on 10/15/2008 8:34:10 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: ArrogantBustard

“Of course, they’re not 0bama supporters.”

Excatly. Unfortunately the number of conservative blacks is far fewer than the liberal blacks. What baffles me is that the blacks I am talking about have six figure jobs yet desire to be thought of as homies with a ghetto pass. The BET culture rots their brains.


94 posted on 10/15/2008 8:42:00 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: ctdonath2

I tend to agree with you. We are not in a civil war - yet. However, what is going on today is - I believe - similar to what led up to the first Civil War. Tension is mounting. Just went up the road to get an iced coffee - Springfield, Virginia area. Radio news had a story about some guy in Maryland making bomb threats to Casa De Maryland. I wondered - how is this different than what Ayers did? I know the answer - the threat is against a leftist/liberal organization. But it also makes you wonder - what is the last resort when the law is used against you?


95 posted on 10/15/2008 8:43:13 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: JackOfVA

“Winners write history.”

You got it! The South was being pushed around by the North and that is what caused the war. Slavery was just an issue of that pushing around but it wasn’t the root cause of the war. The North won and wrote the history books.


96 posted on 10/15/2008 8:43:56 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Leisler

Read Liberal Facism by Jonah Goldberg. It has already happened here and is still going on.


97 posted on 10/15/2008 8:48:54 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 7thson

Yes! That book is teh best, way better than “Bias”.


98 posted on 10/15/2008 8:50:00 AM PDT by rick_p_stedman
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To: 7thson
"what is the last resort when the law is used against you?"

You make an interesting statement. Allow me to rephrase:

The second amendment is for when the government uses the law against us.

99 posted on 10/15/2008 8:52:24 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: JackOfVA

Then according to the Constitution they are the enemies that need to be removed. No need to run from them, they should be running from us.


100 posted on 10/15/2008 8:58:07 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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