It's Fun Seeing Evolution Falsified

CreationEvolutionHeadlines ^ | October 8, 2008

[allmendream]

Look at the chart please. They have a scale bar that denotes one hundred genetic differences. Each bar is drawn to that scale to denote those genetic differences. The actual sequences are not going to be included in the Abstract.

The actual Nature article is subscription only. Do you pretend to think there is no data that went into that chart? Would an entire phylogenetic paper (out of many thousands) with the data included convince you that actual genomic data went into it?

[USMC 4-ever]

You are taking that passage out of context. If you look at the entire scripture you will see that that part is relating to how time is of no matter once we reach heaven. It is not realting to the 6 day creation or endorsing the gap theory.

[USMC 4-ever]

You are taking that passage out of context. If you look at the entire scripture you will see that that part is relating to how time is of no matter once we reach heaven. It is not relating to the 6 day creation or endorsing the gap theory.

[The_Reader_David]

It is very strange that only after the rise of science, by and large, did Christians or Jews decide that the first chapters of Genesis had to be read ‘literally’. Blessed Augustine concluded they could not be literally true. St. Basil the Great, whose Hexameron is adduced as a patristic support for a literal reading, nonetheless writes in that work, “It matters not whether you say ‘a day’ or ‘an aeon’, the thought is the same.” St. Gregory of Nyssa called the first two chapters of Genesis, “doctrines in the guise of a narrative.” St. Gregory the Theologian (Westerners usually call him St. Gregory of Nazianzus) selected as sound commentary on Genesis 1 and 2 some passages from the always-allegorical Origen.

Among notable Jewish commentators, neither Maimonides nor Nachmanides upheld a literalist reading. Philo of Alexandria flatly denied it.

And I think I am in good company in applying Psalm 89 (as an Orthodox Christian I follow the LXX numbering, you might know it as Psalm 90, since protestants tend to follow the Masorete) to the interpretation of Genesis: St. Justin the Philosopher (Westerners usually call him Justin Martyr) applied the verse to the time scales in Genesis in his Dialog with Trypho.

Your interpretation, applying the fifth verse to us in heaven, rather than to God, whose majesty and unlikeness to us is the whole theme of the psalm, is quite frankly unsupportable either by a plain reading of the text (you are trying to uphold a literal reading of Scripture aren’t you? or is it just parts of Scripture that don’t jive with science when read literally that have to be read literally?) or by reading it in the context of Holy Tradition.