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TWO HOURS LATER - MCCAIN VS OBAMA II - IMPRESSIONS
Townhall.com ^ | 8 October 2008 | Andrew Roman

Posted on 10/07/2008 9:42:16 PM PDT by andrew roman

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To: andrew roman

It was boring and argumentative. Half the time each candidate spent telling people what the other candidate believed. Then they would argue back at eachother that they had been misrepresented..... It gets too muddled and no real message comes across. I wanted concrete objectives - attack strategies on the problems that effect my life.

I started reading the grocery ads in the newspaper 3/4 of the way through.


161 posted on 10/08/2008 2:04:10 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: jrooney

Exactly right.


162 posted on 10/08/2008 2:17:09 AM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: andrew roman

Interesting take on things.

Jeff Jacoby in the Boston Globe seems to think McCain ‘excelled’ last night and looked Presidential.

I tend to agree.

If we can possibly resist the temptation to frag our standard bearer, we all might end up having that ‘Hell Yeah!’ moment you speak of on the night of November 4th.


163 posted on 10/08/2008 3:24:21 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: andrew roman

Sen. McCain did better, but Sen. Obama is sounded like a holier-then-thou fool.


164 posted on 10/08/2008 3:24:50 AM PDT by Biggirl (Throw The Bums OUT!=^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
Romney was a superb debater who would have gracefully called Obama on the carpet for all his b.s. statistics. He would have nailed Obambi with a smile.

Yeah, too bad he didn't win more primaries.
165 posted on 10/08/2008 3:29:51 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Arizona Carolyn; GloriaJane

That appears to be the point. You’re supposed to stop listening and you can tell the point by your own feelings: when you reach aggravation and start yelling at the screen, you are, at that moment, obscuring exactly what the politico is really saying. What preceded was simply to get you to stop listening.

The man is well-trained and will probably perform quite well, at least from his handlers’ point of view. And to the other poster, whether we want to or not, Obama will take our money and give it to his supporters and allies. We definitely WILL pay for all this.


166 posted on 10/08/2008 3:31:33 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (Sarah has That Vision Thing)
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To: marsh2
WOW it took you that long to get bored with it ?As soon as Obama started yammering about how screwed up everything in our country is because of Bush and his so called failed policies i started yawning !

Every time Obama started talking even my dog left the room but she watches McCain intensely go figure i guess this conservative stuff rubs off on all my family members ...

167 posted on 10/08/2008 3:32:25 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Drag The Waters some more like never before !)
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To: andrew roman

The good news is debates don’t really matter. Anyone truly undecided at this point is completely clueless. This is the “moron vote” that decides elections. the bad news is there’s millions of morons out there. The dems cultivate the moron vote, and they will win.


168 posted on 10/08/2008 3:39:36 AM PDT by wny
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To: andrew roman

Nice summary.

So we are down to two choices:
The marxist & the liberal.


169 posted on 10/08/2008 3:55:36 AM PDT by NonLinear (When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.)
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To: IndianPrincessOK

Last night’s debate was nauseating, I had to turn it off. I am sick to my stomach to think that this once great country is about to take a step off of a clif in a direction from which there will be little chance of recovery.


170 posted on 10/08/2008 4:10:03 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: NonLinear

I think we needed the McCain of a day earlier in NM - again more missed opportunities, like, once again, letting obama slide on the causes of this mess (i.e. 8 yeas of failed bush economic policies). I think he needed to say something like...”only one man here on the stage tonite tried to rein in fannie mai and freddie mac, which are at the core of this financial crisis. My opponent says he wrote a letter, and who knows, that may be....but my friends, where was Senator Obama on the floor of the Senate with legislation? Nowhere to be found.”


171 posted on 10/08/2008 4:10:32 AM PDT by jester221 (Obama and Osama both have friends who tried to blow up the Pentagon & the Capital)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

How different would this race be with Romney, Huckabee, or Giuliani — anyone with a personality that can think on their feet — against B. Hussein. This crisis played into McCains hands and he refuses to catch it. Anyone else would be up 20 points. It says something about the weakness of Uh-uh-bama that HE is only up 6 against the weakest Republican - probably the only one that could lose.


172 posted on 10/08/2008 4:20:47 AM PDT by Dr. Free Market (Do the right thing, and let the chips fall where they may.)
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To: silentknight
That's what I said to my wife: "Most?!?"

What the hell is that guy talking about? For such a "great orator" he sure sounds like a dumbass every time he opens his mouth.

173 posted on 10/08/2008 4:23:52 AM PDT by GnL
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I still think that “The One” saying healthcare is “a right” is going to come back and bite him on the ass.

Agree. Right v. Responsibility lies at the heart of this election.

174 posted on 10/08/2008 4:35:58 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Those who are kind to the cruel, in the end will be cruel to the kind.)
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To: andrew roman

That was not a “townhall” debate. Whatever it was, it was designed to take away McCains advantage in a “townhall” style debate.


175 posted on 10/08/2008 4:37:25 AM PDT by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: jddqr
I am not paying for people who make bad mortgage decisions!

Withold you vote, put that neophyte communist in charge of all threee branches of government and you will be paying for a lot more than that.

176 posted on 10/08/2008 4:38:11 AM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: andrew roman

McCain needed to hit harder on the regulation nonsense That One was talking about.


177 posted on 10/08/2008 4:39:04 AM PDT by deep (http://www.americansagainstobama.com)
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To: andrew roman

I guess Warren Buffet (sp?) will be the next Secretary of the Treasury, whoever wins...although McCain said there’s plenty of good people out there, someone from E-Bay, as well? I don’t like being told how to feel about problems, real or imagined. It’s happening, I don’t need it redefined in my case. Who won the debate? I dunno. Look at the transcript and tally who actually answered the questions put to them, take the sum of the the total...there’s your answer. Who?


178 posted on 10/08/2008 4:46:39 AM PDT by Retch_Sweeney (Men for whom God is dead worship on another...Crews maybe)
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To: parksstp

This was supposed to be about the economy. I was wondering why they put in national security questions when they already debated those. Probably questions Obama did not answer well during the first debate were allowed for the second to make Obama look good.


179 posted on 10/08/2008 4:50:59 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: TBP; andrew roman

I think you make some good points.

I remember hearing before the 1st debate that McCain doesn’t like practicing/preparing for debates. That went through my mind at least a couple of times last night. I think he needs to practice for the next debate. As many have pointed out, he missed a lot of opportunities to hit back and take 0bama to task and set the record straight on the lies Barack was spouting, but he didn’t. IMHO he stayed primarily w lines from his stump speech. After hearing them a few times, I’d like him to get some new lines, be able to counter 0bama’s lines, and sound a bit more passionate about it (he doesn’t have to get angry, just show a little emotion).

That said, I think he did OK and, for the most part, his answers were more substantive. 0bama seem to ramble and not answer questions, though I can see how some thought he was smooth and polished (in my mind, like a used car or snake oil salesman - - apologies to all used car and snake oil salesmen out there). I guess I shouldn’t be surprised when some of the college kids on Fox thought 0bama had better answers - I don’t think they were listening to the answers, but rather looking at the style.

I think that one of the reasons the debate was less than scintillating was the questions themselves - very sterile, and obviously chosen by Brokaw. It would have been more exciting if answers could have been asked by people randomly chosen from the audience (though after Hillary’s debate, we have seen that those can be fixed w plants, too).

Will the debate change the mind of undecided voters? Possibly, but probably not many, if there are truly that many undecided voters out there.


180 posted on 10/08/2008 4:52:08 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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