1981, New York City: Just a Bizarre Coincidence?

TD Blog ^ | October 7, 2008 | Texas Darlin'

[Recon Dad]

In my earlier life I used to know Mark Rudd. For a period during Junior High school we hung around.

[potlatch]

Thank you. It and the other one make a good duo.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

His first public speech was to the group at Occidental apparently....it is likely he belonged to the group....many are looking for stronger links....

[libertarian27]

Interesting, very interesting.Ping.

[Dionysius]

If the 30 dumpster divers in Alaska have nothing more productive to do, perhaps they could look into this. (Naivete Alert!)

[devolve]

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Great slideshow graphics potlatch

Sean Hannity on WABC 770am NYC (and nationally syndicated talk radio) right now is hammering the NYT and other MSM are calling Governor Sarah Palin and Senator John McCain “racists” for telling the truth about Barack Hussein Obama Junior and is long (and current) relationship with his unrepentent Weatherman terrorist-bombmaker Chicago business associate and neighborhood friend William Ayers

This should be the next Obama expose that Rush, Sean, and others bring up as well as the Rezco business and bribery and Muslim campaign fundraising connections with Obama

Over 50 million dollars from the Anneberg Foundation used by Obama and Ayers to train young Chicago minority public school students to be “militant activists” (domestic terrorists)

[LucyT]

Thank you, potlatch and Ernest_at_the_Beach.

Ping.

#54, and if time permits, check out the thread; information overload.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2099987/posts?page=54#54

Might be of interest:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2098442/posts?page=13#13

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2052529/posts?page=2752#2752

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2099992/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2100559/posts?page=31#31

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2100464/posts

Editorial Cartoon:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2100526/posts?page=11#11

[potlatch]

I think he was born a communist, every tie he has seem to link to them. I read comments of his that I had never heard before in this link below, but I never read his books;

CAPLIS REPORTS: THE OBAMA TAPES

http://www.khow.com/pages/caplisreport.html

[usshadley]

bump

[bvw]

Okay, now how do Ayers and Obama in NYC 1981 meet? A go-between? Chance? Was Obama sent to look for Ayers?

Okay .. I guess there is an earlier question. Why did Obama switch from Occidental to Columbia?

And I guess, out of curiosity, why did Obama mention his mom last night, because it was all about him? Why was his mom negotiating with drug companies about pre-existing coverage, just months begfore her death in 1995? Wouldn't she have carried her "career" insurance plan for many years by then? That's strange.

And where was Stanley Ann in 1980-82? Her bio shows only a divorce from the Indonesian Dad in 1980. And that might have just been legal clock running down on a filing years earlier.

[Brown Deer]

Columbia University’s Jennifer Dohrn, sister of Bernardine Dohrn, was married to the late W. Haywood Burns, a black lawyer who once defended the Attica inmates and also Angela Davis of the Black Panthers.

She also once sued Mark Felt for ordering the FBI to break into the homes of the Weather Underground - thank God they did. She says, “Apparently on one of the break-ins, they took a pair of my underwear and put it in a glass case and gave it as a trophy gift to Mark Felt.”

Interesting that she has been at Columbia University ever since Barack Obama began his studies there. Probably just another coincidence in this tangled web of deceit.

[Brown Deer]

0bomba lives within two blocks of Bill Ayers in NYC in 1981 and only a few blocks away from him in Chicago 15 years later, when Ayers has a party for him, but says he never knew him?

Two of the largest cities in the US and they were living only a few blocks apart at exactly the same time. Your odds are better at winning a lottery than for that to happen by chance.

[nuconvert]

The SDS disbanded in 1969, so he couldn’t have belonged to them.
I wish people would do the tiniest bit of fact checking before they post threads with rumors stated as facts.

[BIGLOOK]

From the dates of their most recent activities, it seems the SDS/Weathermen didn't completely disband (much like the Viet Cong didn't cease to exist after having been decimated during Tet in '68).

The SDS was at Princeton though their chapter wasn't as rabid as those at Columbia or Kent State and Michelle Robinson attended Princeton shortly after the last vestiges of the SDS were extinguished.....or were they. Chances are they were alive and smoldering in the staff. After all, it was that way when I attended school as a returning vet.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

SDS was reformulated into other groups , especially the Weatherman.....Ayers had a lead part in thae new group.

Got a thread around here somewhere....

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

SDS split ...into Weatherman organization...:

Wikipedia:

Weatherman (organization)

*********************EXCERPT*************************

Organization, was an American radical left organization founded in 1969 by leaders and members who split from the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). The group organized a riot in Chicago in 1969 and bombed buildings in the 1970s.

They took their name from the lyric "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows," from the Bob Dylan song Subterranean Homesick Blues. They also used this lyric as the title of a position paper they distributed at an SDS convention in Chicago on June 18, 1969, as part of a special edition of New Left Notes. The Weathermen were initially part of the Revolutionary Youth Movement (RYM) within the SDS, splitting from the RYM's Maoists by claiming there was no time to build a vanguard party and that revolutionary war against the United States government and the capitalist system should begin immediately. Their founding document called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements^[2] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and achieve a classless world: world communism."^[3]

[sport]

Mark

[PhilDragoo]

The opening "Days of Rage" salvo, designed to glorify the anarchist movement, was the October 8 demolition of a statue dedicated to the memory of eight policemen who had been killed in the Haymarket Labor Riot of 1886. Thereafter, some 300 people -- both members and supporters of the Weatherman agenda -- ravaged Chicago's business district, smashing windows and destroying automobiles. Six people were shot and seventy were arrested. The violence continued, though on a smaller scale, for each of the next two nights. As Sixties historian Todd Gitlin observed, however, no popular uprising was sparked by these events, much to the group's dismay. Notable "Days of Rage" leaders included Bill Ayers, now a Professor of Education at the University of Illinois, and Mark William Rudd, currently a mathematics professor at a New Mexico community college.

My friend Roger and I followed Mark Rudd around Purdue for seven hours as he spoke in excited fashion before groups from 5,000 on the grass to seventeen on the living room rug.

Sitting next to him on the carpet I asked him what he was doing.

He replied smilingly that he and his friends were out to change things but he couldn't talk about it as his friends (the frowners in the red armbands) were suspicious of Roger and me with our Beaulieu 16mm and tape recorder. "They think you guys are cops," Mark Rudd explained.

He seemed quite the amiable speed freak.

I wondered who was paying him and who was providing his dope.

Roger scored an Econoline and sawed a hatch in the roof. We screwed mesh to the windows and went up to Chicago for the Days of Rage October 8-11, 1969.

I will say Daley's police army was formeedablay.

Pigeon's egg blue helmeted platoons, white shirts, in formation.

No crossing the street to the block of the hotel housing Judge Hoffman of the Chicago Eight. A bullhorn informing it was forbidden.

Continuous convoys crisscrossing the city composed of three four-door Chevrolets in black, blue, light blue, tan, white, followed by a black wagon.

The Tactical Police Unit's black metro bus with its meshed windows disgorging its black leather gladiators wielding the long sticks.

Clustered trench-coated Dick Tracy's around milk carton walkie talkies as we entered the park.

And in the park's parking lot, the simultaneous arrival of lots of hardtops and convertibles spitting out twenties and thirties-something young men with short hair punching their palms in anticipation of a little ultraviolence. Plain-clothes cops yippie eye oh.

The too-serious-taking-of-themselves "Maoists" were wearing rags from Salvation Army counters, the odd bandana or rag around the arm, or the mouth or the head or the knee, the boots, the boots, the boots.

A bullhorn as the smoke thickens over the hastily assembled pile of broken police barricades, black and white stripes smoldering smokily. That nasty smoke in the city night trees. I mean it's Chicago.

A garbled exhortation and BANG they're off!

We got back to the van and were repeatedly cut off by the police convoys, sirens and sirens, here and there, here and there.

We trailed a path of broken glass--and the crews were out already, the 24-Hour-Emergency-Board-Up-Service pickup trucks their headache racks loaded with sheets of plywood, sawhorses on the sidewalks, circular saws screaming, covering the revolution.

Theater goers stepping over the broken glass of the revolution.

In the restaurants we asked what they thought of the revolution.

"Whatta I think! Whatta I think! I'll tell ya what I think I think they belong in JAIL that's what I think!"

And we understand those seven Episcopal churches were not the sanctuary the exhuberant Rudd & Co thought they'd be.

O the humanity--they gave a revolution and no one came.

I wound up in Boston later and "trashing" was the revolution. A trashcan through a window substituted for storming the Bastille.

You know, I knew a troubled son of privilege such as Bill Ayers in that day who fancied himself the rebel-rebel.

He bragged he and his father passed Jack Paar in the apartment elevator hall on occasion.

The System, Comrades!

We'll all get mansions like Hussein and send our children to fancy schools and throw thousands at their dance lessons--

--for the workers!

Showing daddy, killing daddy, Oedipussies.

The End

[Fred Nerks]

You know, I knew a troubled son of privilege such as Bill Ayers in that day who fancied himself the rebel-rebel.

He bragged he and his father passed Jack Paar in the apartment elevator hall on occasion.

The System, Comrades!

We’ll all get mansions like Hussein and send our children to fancy schools and throw thousands at their dance lessons—

—for the workers!

Showing daddy, killing daddy, Oedipussies.

The End

(Bravo! Bravo! You take my breath away!)

[Recon Dad]

That’s why I asked.