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McCain's Big Night
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Posted on 09/27/2008 4:02:33 PM PDT by hecht

McCain's Big Night Who won more votes? by Dean Barnett

Far be it from me to differ with the punditocracy's mainstream, but I happen to feel that last night's debate was a pretty big win for John McCain. I'm aware that most observers have called it a draw, agreeing that both men performed rather ably. I'm also aware that the polls show a majority of watchers thought Obama "won." But still, it was a big night for McCain. Or more precisely, it was a bad night for Obama.

Judging these things like a high school debate is a fool's (or CNN's) errand. Who cares who "won" the debate? We're not electing a debater-in-chief. A more probative inquiry is who won more votes. Or to ask a related question, who lost fewer votes.

I agree with the multitudes of analysts who say that both men performed ably. The strength of Obama's performance, especially in the debate's first half, came as something of a surprise. He must have cut his normal quotient of "ums" and "ahs" by at least 50 percent, and he put himself across in a relatively forceful manner. At the other end of the stage, McCain's competence in this kind of forum came as no surprise to people familiar with his skills. (As a Romney supporter during the primaries, McCain's supple mind and command of details constantly provided frustration.)

But again, you don't determine the winner of these things by calculating who most skillfully evaded taking a position on the Paulson Plan. We might as well skip ahead to the real goal which isn't winning a debate but rather winning votes.

Like I said, McCain came across well as he always does at these things. Low end news gatherers who were expecting a doddering old warmonger got a surprise. McCain looked and sounded presidential.

McCain's running attack on Obama did serious damage, especially given the way Obama's behavior played right into the attack's theme. Throughout the evening, McCain said that Obama "didn't understand" things. The message was as subtle as a Howard Dean scream--on one part of the stage you had the old Warhorse who has been around the track; on the other end of the stage, according to McCain, you had a neophyte. McCain was making a frontal assault on Obama's maturity and judgment.

The assault only directly drew blood in a couple of instances. Obama looked silly when he couldn't distinguish between "tactics" and "strategy," and his endless parsing on preconditions and preparations came across as patently disingenuous. But the real damage came with the debate's optics. Having his maturity frontally challenged, Obama by his own creative antics often came across as childish, petulant, and a little odd.

Let us count the ways:

1) Several times during the debate, Obama would smirk and laugh while McCain spoke. The optics of this were just awful. If Obama had wanted to come across as an arrogant jerk, this is the strategy he would have chosen. Frankly, it's rather shocking that Obama repeatedly made such a mistake. Al Gore cost himself the 2000 election with his first debate performance where he derided everything George W. Bush said with a series of sighs and smirks. Oh yeah--the polls and the pundits said Gore "won" that tussle right after it concluded, although history has rendered a different verdict. Gore's antics were completely unprecedented. Up until that time, every other presidential candidate had managed to comport himself in a reasonably mature fashion while doing a televised debate. And yet in 2004, George W. Bush took the Gore tactics out for a test drive during his first debate with John Kerry, scowling virtually every time Kerry spoke. Bush's lead in the polls quickly evaporated.

The voters expect a certain level of decorum from their candidates. Obama didn't demonstrate that decorum last night. While he debated more effectively than he has in the past, he came across poorly.

2) On a related note, Obama kept referring to McCain as "John" while the older candidate referred to his foe as "Senator." Again, I don't understand the thought process here. Maybe Obama thought he would appear more presidential and less a lightweight by treating his more seasoned opponent in an overly familiar manner. But the difference in the two candidates' approaches grated as the evening wore on.

3) Obama often refers to himself as "we." What's up with that?

4) Obama pronounces Pakistan like a high school civics teacher trying to show of his erudition--"Pah-kee-stun." Whenever he does this, he comes across as a smarty-pants showoff. Besides, I would argue that in America, we know and commonly refer to the country in question as, you know, Pakistan, not Pah-kee-stun. Obama is only right on this if he also calls Spain "la España."

5) The "two bracelets" moment showed Obama at his "I have to be the smartest guy in the room" worst. This could emerge as the signature moment of the debate, where Obama's insecurities and insincerity combined to create a perfect storm. (Apparently, he couldn't recall the name of the soldier he was purportedly honoring until he looked it up on his bracelet.)

America is still getting to know Barack Obama. Last night, the candidate did himself no favors. Mind you, I'm not a habitual hater of Obama. I've never called him "despicable" or "evil," the terms most currently in vogue on the left to describe John McCain. In fact, as I've written many times, from everything I've heard Barack Obama is a good guy. But he didn't come across as one last night.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2008debates; mccain; obama
So why isn't Fred Barnes mentioning this on Fox News? The "I've got a bracelet too, but I cant remember the soldiers name" was the most memorable moment of the debate.
1 posted on 09/27/2008 4:02:33 PM PDT by hecht
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To: hecht

I find it hard to believe that anyone would vote for soemone based on debate results.


2 posted on 09/27/2008 4:16:25 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr
3) Obama often refers to himself as “we.” What's up with that?


We = My Puppet Masters and I?....:^)

3 posted on 09/27/2008 4:25:23 PM PDT by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats)
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To: hecht
Only the brain dead cult followers could possibility believe Obama won. Still say at least the vast majority of Americans are totally brain dead. Used to say 2/3, but looks like some hope is on the horizon.
4 posted on 09/27/2008 4:40:54 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: hecht

MCCain won the debate. No way did Obama win.


5 posted on 09/27/2008 5:15:41 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: az_gila

I have no idea.


6 posted on 09/27/2008 5:24:07 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: hecht
So why isn't Fred Barnes mentioning this on Fox News?

Seriously, was he sleeping when this happened? I've lost what was left of my respect for Barnes. There's simply no excuse for his remarks on the debate. It'll be interesting to hear what Rush has to say about the debate, and the pundits, on Monday.


7 posted on 09/27/2008 5:40:47 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: dalebert

If McCain won (andf I think he did) it is not being reported that way in the MSM. Poll after poll being reported has him losing. Sure they are rigged but they are also effective with the masses who didn’t watch it.


8 posted on 09/27/2008 5:45:58 PM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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