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I'm dyslexic, a horrible typist and could use a decent editor, but I was asked to write a little something explaining more about how hedge funds really work internally, and I was happy to comply.
1 posted on 09/09/2008 2:53:55 PM PDT by tcostell
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To: pointsal

Hedge Fund Request Ping


2 posted on 09/09/2008 2:54:29 PM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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3 posted on 09/09/2008 2:59:30 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (I would spend more time on FR but I have to make sure my tires are inflated.)
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Interesting. So how’s business these days?


4 posted on 09/09/2008 3:02:00 PM PDT by jimbo123
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Well, thanks for the update.
ptsal


5 posted on 09/09/2008 3:10:32 PM PDT by pointsal
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Good read. Thanks.


6 posted on 09/09/2008 3:10:38 PM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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The public perception of hedge funds is largely attributable to the headline-grabbing failures of two specific subcategories of the large species known as “hedge funds”: the basically one man shops that turn out to have been have been total frauds, usually from day one, sending out phony statements or deviating wildly from their stated investment strategy without mentioning it to their investors until it was too late; and the large funds using astronomical leverage (think LTCM). Some hedge funds stopped calling themselves hedge funds for a few years after the LTCM debacle, insisting on being called “private investment funds” instead, in an attempt to distance themselves from the stigma associated with “hedge funds”.


8 posted on 09/09/2008 3:20:43 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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Nice job. There might be a case or two, here or there, where a couple of hedge funds have been accused in colluding on stock price manipulation, and you may have glossed over some of the risk and the leveraging and maybe even how the incentive structure could encourage the occasional blowout risk, but a good basic overview.


9 posted on 09/09/2008 3:21:59 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Thanks for taking the time to write this up. It obviously took some effort to do it and it offers true insight into financial operations that a lot of people (including yours truly) know very little about.

That said, all the wailing and gnashing of teeth about hedge funds these days is usually followed in the next breath with a rant about the @!#$%&^**!! high cost of oil on the futures markets and the effects of “rampant speculation” on the cost of gasoline at the pump. And, although there has been some easing in prices recently, there is still a lot of ill will toward traders. The actual fact of speculation in the oil futures market is, of course, being simultaneously both proclaimed and denied by various market "experts".

Overall, it is a bit confusing.

Can you offer an insider's opinion/perspective on the role (if any) that speculation may have played in the run up in fuel prices earlier this year?

12 posted on 09/09/2008 3:30:22 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (The best way to calm the delusions of grandeur in the energy cartel is to stop needing their energy)
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ping for later reading


13 posted on 09/09/2008 3:31:02 PM PDT by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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Here's my feelings on hedge funds: The people who buy into them are trying to make money and they have to accept the risk.

NOT one thin dime of my tax dollars should be spent bailing out millionairs. Period. If they can't take the risk, they should stay out of the fund.

14 posted on 09/09/2008 3:31:22 PM PDT by GOPJ (No one jumps up and down screaming the sun will rise tomorrow. High emotion indicates fear-Pirsig)
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Nice post. Thanks.


17 posted on 09/09/2008 3:33:49 PM PDT by GOPJ (No one jumps up and down screaming the sun will rise tomorrow. High emotion indicates fear-Pirsig)
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bump


20 posted on 09/09/2008 3:36:19 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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Regardless of the competence of the hedge fund operators and the competitive environment, it still seems as if a major failure occured in the mortgage market.

Investment vehicles were created which were less transparent and less liquid than other instruments. Because of this, these instruments were less susceptible to the discipline of the market and only finally came to be adequately valued after it was too late to prevent a major collapse in the credit market.

I have a problem with the greatest and most creative minds being used to come up with new and better investment vehicles rather then new and better pharmaceuticals, energy sources, materials, material uses, chemicals, industrial processes, etc.

It seems to me that there are currently more than enough ways for those people with good ideas to get the funding they need to turn their ideas into reality. There is no real need for yet another way to repackage risk so that all the benefits go to a few, and the risks are sucked up by the unknowing, e.g. pensioners whose fund managers picked up one to many glossy hedge fund brochures.

I don't know who was helped by slicing and dicing millions of loans into trillions of parts and repacking them to the point of complete obfuscation.

I also have a problem with so much wealth being concentrated in so few places. Some of that wealth can be used (and was) to lobby politicians to look the other way. Now that these entities which are "too large to let fail" are starting to fail, the burden is being put on the shoulders of the taxpayer rather than the fund managers.

If we know ahead of time that the government will not allow businesses worth more than $X to fail, then no business should be allowed to be worth more than $X. What we have now is a weird system where we allow a supposedly free market system to drive toward the edge of a cliff, and when it goes over the edge it falls into a socialist safety net. If there were no net, then let whomever wants to drive over the cliff, but unfortunately there will always be a net comprised mainly of the backs of taxpayers.

23 posted on 09/09/2008 3:49:09 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (The cosmos is about the smallest hole a man can stick his head in. - Chesterton)
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Thanks for your informative, well written post. I’ll link to it the next time I come across someone from the “torch and pitchfork” crowd which should be any minute now.


24 posted on 09/09/2008 3:51:58 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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As long as the margin on oil is raised to the margin of everything else and the hedge funds take delivery of the oil they buy, I’m cool with it. Otherwise, not so much.


25 posted on 09/09/2008 3:52:58 PM PDT by mysterio
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LOL, I just saw the torch and pitchfork graphic on your blog, after I posted the above reply.


26 posted on 09/09/2008 3:59:43 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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Thank you for posting this.


29 posted on 09/09/2008 4:18:23 PM PDT by snowsislander
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I sent this to my nephew who is running a hedge fund in Texas ..Thanks


30 posted on 09/09/2008 4:34:42 PM PDT by woofie
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