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Inconsistencies abound in FactCheck report on Obama "birth certificate"
Israeli Insider ^ | 8/24/08 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 08/24/2008 8:10:04 AM PDT by pissant

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To: bvw

“Well, you are the only person on FR, so I guess that makes you the smartest, too.
Signed —
Your Alternate Personality Number 97”

Seriously, I was accused of being on dope, but you are the one to come up with that post?


321 posted on 09/07/2008 1:02:26 PM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: TheNewPundit
Yes! We enjoy the dope, don't we!

Signed,
(sToNedD to the gIlLs) Your Alternate Personality Number 97

322 posted on 09/07/2008 1:05:52 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

“Yes! We enjoy the dope, don’t we!”

I can see that you do. Anyways, Cowboys is on now. Maybe you could sober up before it is over.


323 posted on 09/07/2008 1:16:51 PM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: TheNewPundit
We are as sober as a churchmice. We like is Cowboys.

Signed,
Your Alternate Personality 97

324 posted on 09/07/2008 1:32:48 PM PDT by bvw
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To: TheNewPundit

that’s the stupidist thing anyone ever said, smarty!


325 posted on 09/07/2008 1:42:22 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: RaceBannon

TNP is a rare treat.


326 posted on 09/07/2008 3:06:39 PM PDT by bvw
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To: RaceBannon; bvw

Our youngest daughter was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on December 21, 1971 and her Certificate of Live Birth which was issued by the Research and Statistics Office of the Department of Health State of Hawaii and looks nothing like the one shown here in this thread for Barack Hussein Obama II. Our daughter’s certificate contains a File Number (151) and the certificate number (71 015396), my wife’s signature and residential address, the doctor’s signature, the hospital name (Kapiolani), the signature of the deputy Registrar, facsimile signatures of the Director of Health and the State Registrar as well as other information which is not shown on Obama’s certificate. Our copy was issued May 8, 1979 as a “true and correct copy of the original”.

But most importantly, the image of the perforation stamp on our daughter’s certificate is NOT the same as the one on Obama’s. It looks like his birth certificate is a fake!

104 posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 10:47:54 AM by Stayfree


327 posted on 09/07/2008 3:55:04 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Save the planet...it is the only known one with beer!)
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To: TheNewPundit
I know a forged doc wouldn’t come from DoH. I was simply stating that if Hawaii were covering for him, they would have printed him a fake that could not be detected as a forgery instead of lying about a forged certificate.

No they wouldn't. Lying about a certificate at least provides some sort of plausible deniability; they can claim that someone was "tired" and misread the records. Then they would apologize for their "misstatements".

Government employees actually forging government records is another thing altogether. Now they would be open to charges involving the manufacturing of (bogus) government documents.That means felonies and jail time. It would be stupid to take that kind of risk. It's just not worth it.

And FactCheck did not actually verify that the stamp and seal were in fact genuine, they just stated that a stamp and seal were visible.

And FactCheck has to provide some defense of Republicans. Otherwise they would have as much credibility as Daily Kos. And their defense of Cheney is totally separate issue. It serves no purpose to conflate that with Obama's CoLB.

And if FactCheck can obtain their own copy, why can't other media entities be allowed to do so as well...?

328 posted on 09/07/2008 5:14:03 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: razorback-bert; Stayfree
In that cert number "151 71 015396", the first group of digits "151" is the state code. See http://www.peoplefindernow.com/3adofals.htm

The second group "71" is the birth year. That's obvious.

The third group is "015396" which is the sequential serial number of the recording of the birth record in Hawaii in the year 1971. According to US Vital Stats 1971, page 259 (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/nat71_1.pdf) there were 15838 births in Hawaii in 1971. If births were perfectly even day-by-day births on 12/21/1971 (Tuesday), the serial number would be in the range 14918-14960. The difference of 436, is variance due to a recording that occurred some days later as well as reflects variance in the births per day.

329 posted on 09/07/2008 5:22:15 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Cyropaedia
And if FactCheck can obtain their own copy, why can't other media entities be allowed to do so as well...?

Aye, that's the rub! Why the heck not!

330 posted on 09/07/2008 5:23:52 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Yeah, I think that the WSJ, Washington Times, and IBD should all press the Obama campaign on this.


331 posted on 09/07/2008 5:30:39 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia

You aren’t very good at this at all. Either Hawaii is in on your conspiracy, or they will charge him with fraud. And the original claim against the certificate was that there was no seal at all, not that there was a fake one. Factcheck verified the existence of the seal.

And factcheck provides defense of republicans the same way they provide defense of democrats. They do it when someone tells a lie.

You accuse Obama with no evidence, you accuse factcheck with no evidence, and you are accusing a state government with no evidence.

Pretty sad.


332 posted on 09/07/2008 5:47:29 PM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: RaceBannon

“that’s the stupidist thing anyone ever said, smarty!”

Did you wright that one yourself?


333 posted on 09/07/2008 5:49:06 PM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: bvw

I think, you have found the real reason for the black out, the date doesn’t match BO’s birthyear.


334 posted on 09/07/2008 9:08:08 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Save the planet...it is the only known one with beer!)
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To: Cyropaedia
Wait. My goof> Oh god. there is a 1961 in the FactCheck CoLB. My mistake. But the other CoLB is doesn't have the right sequence. Sorry. How embarrassing.

My apologies.

337 posted on 09/08/2008 1:51:55 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia; Admin Moderator

Check mailbox with regards to posts #335 & 336 (delete) . Thanks.


338 posted on 09/08/2008 3:14:24 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: TheNewPundit

It took you about 100 posts to come up with that retort?

LOL!


339 posted on 09/08/2008 4:21:36 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Cyropaedia

Well that’s your mulligan for the day!


340 posted on 09/08/2008 4:22:25 AM PDT by bvw
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