Posted on 08/10/2008 2:21:32 PM PDT by pissant
Lots of speculation being stated as fact. You usually end up looking foolish when you do that.
Somehow, I suspect this story will have a slightly different ending - I hope they their pound!
As much as I loathe Hillary!, if McCain fails to gain the Presidency I'd rather see her in the White House than that radical Marxist/Muslim!!
Some of this stuff you just can't make up.
The only thing I’m 1000% sure of is that his COLB is a forgery. The speculation is fun, and if it comes from enough corners, the marxistcommiebedwetter will have to cough up his REAL birth certificate and history.
Proof? Or is that too much to ask?
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"Barry Soetoro probably acquired Indonesian citizenship in approximately 1965-1966, and may still hold it. He possibly changed his legal name back to Barack Hussein Obama as an older child, teenager, or adult, possibly never did..."
Probably...may...possibly...possibly not...
So much certainty in one paragraph....
Again, proof?
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"I am getting reports from different sources that Obama traveled to Pakistan in 81 with an Indonesian passport.
Reports from whom? Again - proof?
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Where is any proof for any of this speculation?
Was Obama campaining for the Kenyan Communist Party?
WAS a muslim??? I think that Rev. Wright and his so called Cristian church are some kind of Muslim hybrid. Otherwise why the close relationship with the Nation of Islam???
Why would an adoption done in Indonesia under Indonesian law cause a change to a U.S. birth certificate?
Yep, apparently Odinga Odinga, Raila Odinga's father, hated his Christian birth name so much rejected it utterly.
He was also a Luo tribesman. Obama happens to be of Luo tribal descent via his father.
So when he visited his 'cousin' Raila Odinga it was perceived that a Luo tribesman could possibly become President of the United States. This gave the guy a serious boost.
Nice of the distinguished Senator to blantantly interfere in the elections of another sovereign nation.
Ignorant in the ways of legalities I have to ask:
If any of you or I were to submit a forged passport for anything - especially to show eligibility as a candidate for President of the USA, would we not be liable for some kind of lawbreaking???
How is it this guy has not been chucked into a holding tank for his misrepresentation?
When did illegal or copied or forged Birth Certificates become legal tender???
exactly...
Is Obama legally qualified to be President?
US Law very clearly stipulates: If only one parent was a US citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.
Barack Obamas father was not a US citizen, and Obamas mother was only 18 when he was born, which means although she had been a US citizen for 10 years, his mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years prior to Barack Obamas birth. In order for her child to have been a natural-born US citizen, his mother would have had to be 21 at the time of his birth.
In essence, Mrs. Obama was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic US citizenship.His mother would have needed to have been 16+5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obamas birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen.
Barack Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office of President under current law. At best, Barack Obama is only a naturalized US citizen and does not meet the test.
Even if every word of it is true.
We need to beat him on the "he's an empty suit" or "he's a dangerous Maoist" premise.That's our only hope.
btt
Did it? The last major change to immigration law prior to Obama's birth was the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952. Title III, Chapter 1, Article 301, paragraph g stated that "a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years..." was a natural born citizen. If the law was change to residing in the U.S for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16 then when did this change take place?
INA of 1952. Link at the bottom takes you to the act itself.
LOL...Hillary has a copy of Barry Soetoro’s birth certificate in her bulging file on him. Never fear...it will come out and he will lose this election.
I’m getting great fun out of this only because the Kos Kiddies and the rest of the left-wing bedwetters were first to bring up the “citizenship” issue with McCain and the fact he was born in the Canal Zone.
They hammered on about it even though they knew it was going to get them nowhere.
Now look what it got them; an indepth look into Osama’s background and his own birth certificate.
“All this “Osama’s a citizen of such-and such and he’s not a natural born US citizen seems like a non-starter,boys and girls.
Even if every word of it is true.
We need to beat him on the “he’s an empty suit” or “he’s a dangerous Maoist” premise.That’s our only hope.”
It’s politics. Things like this affect the vote of lots of people. We at FR are not so susceptible, but millions can be swayed.
Not to say we shouldn’t keep beating the issues drum, of course, but Joe Average doesn’t pay enough attention to what seems obvious to us. We also need attention-grabbers like this.
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