[mrjesse]

Perhaps you could provide an example of two distinct kinds that do not share a common ancestor, and provide your evidence and reasoning for your claim. What, How, for example, do you classify creatures that share features of your kinds?

As an example of two distinct kinds in my classification system which are unrelated I would say that hawk and pig ought to be two separate kinds.

As to things like whether cats are the same kind (of course I'm referring to kinds in my classification system here) as dogs, or other more tricky stuff, I haven't yet sorted all out. I hope to work more at it and try real world data with it and see how (if) it works, but haven't had the chance yet.

Does that help?

-Jesse

[js1138]

I would say that hawk and pig ought to be two separate kinds.

But they have a common ancestor. Explain why both fossils and DNA form the same nested hierarchy, using the same reasoning we use in courtrooms to demonstrate parentage.

http://www.tolweb.org/tree/phylogeny.html
http://www.tolweb.org/Animals/2374
http://www.tolweb.org/Bilateria/2459
http://www.tolweb.org/Deuterostomia/2466
http://www.tolweb.org/Chordata/2499
http://www.tolweb.org/Craniata/14826
http://www.tolweb.org/Vertebrata/14829
http://www.tolweb.org/Gnathostomata/14843
http://www.tolweb.org/Sarcopterygii/14922
http://www.tolweb.org/Terrestrial_Vertebrates/14952
http://www.tolweb.org/Amniota/14990

None of the major proponents of intelligent design deny common descent, so what is your competing hypothesis?