Posted on 07/14/2008 9:48:03 AM PDT by mnehring
p>Well, you can add another candidate I won’t be voting for in November to my list; Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution party who has all but pulled a John Kerry and insulted our troops by inferring that they are part what he calls the “lunacy” of the Iraq War. By correlation, if the mission is “lunacy” than those that are willingly supporting it and singing up for the job must be “lunatics”. Baldwin decried “the bi-partisan complicity that has allowed the illegal, immoral, unconstitutional war that has resulted in the slaughter of four thousand American soldiers and untold innocent Iraqis”. Baldwin went on to point out “If elected, I will end the lunacy that sends Americans abroad to guard the borders of Iraq, while leaving our borders wide open, inviting illegals to plunder the wealth and good will of American citizens”. Baldwin’s remarks were interrupted by a number of thunderous standing ovations making it clear his message resonated with the party faithful.
Of course I assumed that the Constitution Party would appoint a candidate with such a position and quite frankly it is actions like this that keep people from voting for their candidates. Instead of being unhinged and adopting liberal talking points, the Constitution Party should step back, take a deep breath, reread the Constitution and come back down to Earth.
To call the Iraq War “unconstitutional” places Baldwin in the same camp as Ron Paul in terms of being “loony” himself since the Constitution clearly states that Congress declares war and there is a resolution on record, for anyone that cares to read it, authorizing the use of force (i.e. war) against Iraq for their (at the time) continued violations of the ceasefire agreement and associations with terrorist organizations.
Baldwin’s “lunacy” puts him squarely in the camp of not being qualified to be Commander in Chief of our military and thus not qualified to be President. Thus the Constitution Party, for all its good ideas, regulates itself to being nothing more than another hopeless also-ran.
Note, I fixed the grammar problem with the original title.
Just goes to show that, as usual, the only things worse than the two major parties are the third parties.
BS
Kind of makes me miss old Ross Perot.. as nutty as he was, at least he loved his country and those who defended it.
It is an amalgam of all the anti-Constitutional crank movements from the original Anti-Federalists to the America Firsters and beyond.
"Untold innocent Iraqis" - clowns.
Not quite as bad as the left. At least he proposed defending our borders from illegals. The left would never propose such a thing.
>> “... the illegal, immoral, unconstitutional war that has resulted in the slaughter of four thousand American soldiers and untold innocent Iraqis”.
Makes John McCain sound like Ronald Reagan.
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You have no argument.
One of two individuals will be the next president of our United States: Senator Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. or Senator John Sidney McCain III. Pick one.
I guess that leaves the Falcon Party as the only conservative option: “Twenty members...and growing!”
When was the last time we had a Senator become President? It’s been more than 40 years, I think.
You mean the ‘Falcon Blog’? They aren’t registered as a party, it is just a blog.
Two members for every claw.
>>> By correlation, if the mission is “lunacy” than those that are willingly supporting it and singing up for the job must be “lunatics”.
>> BS
I think I agree with you on this assessment. I don’t think it necessarily follows from calling the mission “lunacy” that the soldiers would be “lunatics”. However, I think there are bigger problems ...
>> Baldwin decried “the bi-partisan complicity that has allowed the illegal, immoral, unconstitutional war that has resulted in the slaughter of four thousand American soldiers and untold innocent Iraqis”.
Even beyond the unsupportable declaration that the Iraq War is “illegal, immoral, unconstitutional” (which shows an abject misunderstanding of the Constitution, on which he supposedly bases his ideology) — the declaration that American soldiers have killed “untold innocent” Iraqi civilians is unquestionably a libel of noble servicemen.
The war is neither illegal, nor unconstitutional (its morality, I suppose, is debatable ... though I’ll not vote for an individual to whom the morality of this war is a debatable point). And, American soliders have not “slaughtered” innocent Iraqis.
With such nonsense as this and Bob Barr’s nonsensical railing against the Patriot Act, from supposedly conservative third-party candidates ... I see no third party which offers an alternative preferable to John McCain.
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You only lose if you choose to lose. You still live in the United States of America, the greatest country on earth. We've survived Revolution, Civil War, World Wars, Depressions, Recessions, Wilsons, Carters, Clintons, and we always come out stronger. Yea our choices stink this year, but our lives aren't run in DC, they are run in our own homes. We need to get over this attitude that our lives are run from DC. We don't need someone prancing in proclaiming 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help', even if it is about an issue we care for. We need to live our lives as Conservative individuals and spread those values. That way, no matter who is in DC, the country will become greater.
The only threat we have is if we, ourselves, give up.
Not that I agree with the Constitution Party, but your conclusion doesn’t match logically with what the man actually said.
He said, “If elected, I will end the lunacy that sends Americans abroad ...” Thus, “lunacy” refers to the policy (and by extension, the politicians), not even to the war. Therefore, it cannot be extended to the soldiers.
This is my main problem with the Constitution Party. On most other things, I agree with them. But ideas like this and the savage way that Howard Phillips (wom I respected and used to work for) went after Alan Keyes are real problems.
Must be the Soviet Constitution.
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