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A Freeper rebuttal to AJ Strata's claim of debunking the Obama Birthgate doubters, part 1!
PA Times | 7/7/08 | Pissant

Posted on 07/07/2008 4:57:52 PM PDT by pissant

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To: Gondring

I’ve never seen divorce or marriage documents. A link would be helpful.


21 posted on 07/07/2008 6:10:17 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
From Time. You'll notice that Time mag does not tell who inspected the divorce record and they do not mention any marriage certificate/license.

"On Feb. 2, 1961, several months after they met, Obama's parents got married in Maui, according to divorce records. It was a Thursday. At that point, Ann was three months pregnant with Barack Obama II. Friends did not learn of the wedding until afterward. "Nobody was invited," says Abercrombie. The motivations behind the marriage remain a mystery, even to Obama. "I never probed my mother about the details. Did they decide to get married because she was already pregnant? Or did he propose to her in the traditional, formal way?" Obama wonders. "I suppose, had she not passed away, I would have asked more.""

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..."Ann filed for divorce in Honolulu in January 1964, citing "grievous mental suffering"—the reason given in most divorces at the time. Obama Sr. signed for the papers in Cambridge, Mass., and did not contest the divorce."

http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1729524,00.html

22 posted on 07/07/2008 6:20:30 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

And no friends witnessed the Obama/Dunham marriage according to the friend reported by Time mag above.


23 posted on 07/07/2008 6:23:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Thanks.


24 posted on 07/07/2008 6:33:50 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

“My guess, he’s a bastard child. But that is just speculation.”

I agree. Back then, even if the father was identifiable, if the child was out of wedlock, the birth certificate would state that the father was ‘unknown.’ I think this is the real issue, and would explain why he was able to get a passport, etc.

So now the issue is why he lets a lie float out there for so long.


25 posted on 07/07/2008 7:28:23 PM PDT by esquirette (If we do not have our own world view, we will accept theirs.)
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To: esquirette
I think the real issue is the rats decided to contest McCain's eligibility, resulting in Claire McCaskill's Senate Resolution declaring McCain a natural-born citizen, which Obama supported.

Unfortunately for Barack Obama, who tried to slip some language into the resolution which would cover his case, one of the analysts on the resolution turned out to be Ted Olson, Solicitor General, widower of FReeper Barbara Olson (BKO) who was murdered as her plane exploded on 9/11.

26 posted on 07/07/2008 7:52:03 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: pissant

Haven’t seen them. As I said, it was reports, but the documentation would be interesting.


27 posted on 07/07/2008 9:02:06 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: pissant; Polarik

Bambi writes in his book that the details of the marriage are “murky” and that he never had the “courage” to track them down. I took that to mean there was nothing murky and he didnt have the courage to admit what he knew.

I’ll believe the parents were legally married when I see the documents, not when TIME magazine or some other member of the treason media tells me they were.

I am still bothered by the blacking out of the cert number. This full-of-himself blogger owes us an an explanation as to why someone would do this given that it would invalidate a document were it actually legit.


28 posted on 07/07/2008 9:26:09 PM PDT by freespirited (Never vote for a man who gets his nails done.)
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To: Gondring

No.

To be eligible for the Presidency you cannot be just a citizen, but born within the United States or on its territory overseas, such as in a U.S. military hospital or embassy.


29 posted on 07/07/2008 9:40:56 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: txflake

WHAT kind of language did Senator Obama try to slip into that resolution?


30 posted on 07/07/2008 9:42:21 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: SatinDoll

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2042198/posts?page=29

Read it and do cartwheels.


31 posted on 07/07/2008 9:53:16 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txflake

I’ve read it already.

On July 3rd, right after reviewing articles on Senator Obama linked through FR, someone hacked into my computer, mapped all three of my hardrives and then transferred the information to Washington, D.C.

My genius kid, studying to be a computer server administrator, notified McAFee that he’d discovered a shadow server behind FR’s server(s) that was positing Trojan horses and viral nasties on member’s computers. McAfee contacted FreeRepublic and I contacted the FBI.

Our hard drives were all 128 bit encrypted. No one has threatened me yet but I don’t have young children. I do have a real junk yard dog of a lawyer, though, and I will sue the bejesus out of Senator Obama if one of his homies shows up and we track this crap back to him!


32 posted on 07/07/2008 10:07:17 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: SatinDoll

What user IP address # did your son find when he identified the info as having gone to DC?

Can he identify who gathered the info?

I guess this would have to be a first rate hacker to set up the scenario you describe.

Can the rest of us find out if we have had a similar mapping of our drives? How would we do that?

Glad you called the FBI.


33 posted on 07/07/2008 10:25:29 PM PDT by exit82 (It's not Obama's acceptance speech--it is his Nuremburg Speech. Pass it on.)
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To: exit82

I also contacted the Webmaster here at Free Republic. They have not given me the courtesy of a reply. Yet. I’ll see what I can do about getting out the information on how to fix any problems.


34 posted on 07/07/2008 10:27:14 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: SatinDoll

Obama’s toast as of today, but my machine is acting up big-time, too.

May have to call the FBI as well.


35 posted on 07/07/2008 10:27:27 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: SatinDoll

Many thanks in advance.


36 posted on 07/07/2008 10:28:55 PM PDT by exit82 (It's not Obama's acceptance speech--it is his Nuremburg Speech. Pass it on.)
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To: txflake; exit82

I’m posting what my nephew wrote for someone else who was experiencing hard drive difficulties. Pleae excuse his text messaging lingo.

“hi im the genius kid and wat you have is a trojan that is not detectable by antivirus. Now before i say anything this program from what I have looked at it can install it self under several process names that run on ur computer. The two it uses are svchost.exe and explorer.exe. But they look like this, svchost..exe, or explorer..exe (notice the double periods). Now to get rid of it follow this file path WINDOWS/system32/ it should be in that folder. DO NOT DELETE A FILE THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS - svchost.exe or explorer.exe. Look for the file that has the double period. Oh and by the way I am seeing if it runs under anything else, so if u cant find it then it is installed under something else.

if u need more help just ask for
Kid Genius”

As his aunt I’m torn between gratitude and horror!


37 posted on 07/07/2008 10:31:56 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: SatinDoll
You can either be naturalized or natural born. The claim here is that to be president, one must be natural born.

In US Code Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter III (NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION), there are four parts. The first covers nationality at birth, and the second covers nationality through naturalization. (The other two are "Loss of Nationality" and "Miscellaneous.")

There's no "naturalized at birth for being born outside the US. Note that the SCOTUS seems to concur...Rogers v. Bellei, 401 U.S. 815 (1971).

Also note, in the Constitution itself, we find: "Clause 5. No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been Fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

IANAL.

38 posted on 07/07/2008 10:44:29 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: SatinDoll

Very Interesting. Looking forward to further reports.


39 posted on 07/07/2008 10:44:30 PM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: SatinDoll

Wow—the double period was quite a catch on Kid Genius’s part.

You would not “see” that, because the program names are similar to known program names.

“Kid Genius” is a screen name that is not taken yet, according to the search function.

Maybe said nephew should join FR.


40 posted on 07/07/2008 10:49:51 PM PDT by exit82 (It's not Obama's acceptance speech--it is his Nuremburg Speech. Pass it on.)
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