A Freeper rebuttal to AJ Strata's claim of debunking the Obama Birthgate doubters, part 1!

PA Times | 7/7/08 | Pissant

[pissant]

So far, we have AJStrata making fluff points to pad the size of his analysis and making points that are his opinion as opposed to technical refutations of Polarik's and others' analysis.

Part two coming soon.

[pissant]

Ping

[Always Right]

Is it really that hard for Obama campaign to produce a hard copy???? Instead we have people fighting over an image which could easily be forged. I for one however am more interested in the real Birth Certificate and not some Certificate of Live Birth.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks, I will leave the technical stuff to the experts like Polarik and you.

[muawiyah]

Talk to Hawaii about what they call these documents and what you mean by "original". Not quite sure "original" notes taken down by a records nurse are an "original" anything ~ holographic Fur Shur, but not "original" in the sense that they turn into an official government record (now in a database recorded on aluminum foil), or earlier, as a photograph (microfiche) of a typed copy of a standard "fill in the blanks" for.

Give us a recording of your conversation with the people in Hawaii will ya.

[Red Steel]

Strata BC doc "analysis" is unconvincing.

It appears some prominent conservative bloggers want this to go away. I'll hazard to guess why. Since these bloggers have a large following, and see themselves as reputable, they are afraid of ridicule for being perceived as "kooks on the fringes" if Obama brings out a real BC to show... Even if they believe that this Obama birth certificate is bogus.

[pissant]

No, not hard, but likely some embarrassing elements to it. My guess, he’s a bastard child. But that is just speculation.

[Red Steel]

ping.

[TigersEye]

Good job. AJStrata’s “debunk” was a really lightweight effort.

[freekitty]

Yep, they are busy making a better deal for a better forged copy.

[freekitty]

Thank you pissant. I love you.

[pissant]

It was very unconvincing. And his claim of 30-60 minutes spent on it is evidence it cannot be convincing.

Here is what another has concluded:

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/03/update-daily-kos-an-obama-activist-and-forged-birth-certificates/#more-3417

[Gondring]

Actually, the embosser marks are/were visible on the Kos one with the naked eye. It was confirmed when I enhanced the image.

[Gondring]

My guess, he’s a bastard child.

Reports are that the divorce filing lists a marriage date of Feb 2, 1961, but I don't know how closely that documentation was examined.

[Jet Jaguar]

BTTT

[patriot08]

“My guess, he’s a bastard child.”

Well that goes without saying. How could the marriage possibly be legal? Obama Sr. already had a wife in Kenya.

[Gondring]

So you’re saying that Sen. Obama is a US Citizen under 8USC1409(c)? Well, then, he’d qualify for Pres, even if born overseas.

[pissant]

Yes, that was shown weeks ago on a lib’s website. You can see some marks, but you cannot see the stamp itself. Only with enhanced tools can you make out the an actual stamp, and only on the KOS version.

[Gondring]

Yes, that was shown weeks ago on a lib’s website.

True. FR is becoming quite lib.

You can see some marks, but you cannot see the stamp itself.

You can see the general form of it. The GIMP or Photoshop confirm the position as being right where the naked eye puts it.

And of course, that is from the Kos version.

[pissant]

FR is becoming quite lib? You mean all those Rudy supporters leaving reduced the conservatism of the website?