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Your Assignment: Compile Obama’s Flip-Flops ( Patterico.com building a list)
patterico.com ^ | 7/7/2008 | Patterico

Posted on 07/07/2008 12:54:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

7/7/2008

Your Assignment: Compile Obama’s Flip-Flops

Filed under: 2008 Election, War — Patterico @ 7:11 am

[This post will remain bumped to the top through Monday. New posts will appear below. -- Patterico]

I want you to help me compile a full list of Obama’s flip-flops.

Leave a comment fully documenting one or more flip-flops. Links are critical. For maximum usefulness, I would like to see the following for each flip-flop:

1) Obama’s original quote, with a link.

2) His later flip-flopping quote, also with a link.

Here’s an example of what I’m looking for:

Flip: Obama says the health exception for late-term abortions has to be a serious physical issue:

I have repeatedly said that I think it’s entirely appropriate for states to restrict or even prohibit late-term abortions as long as there is a strict, well-defined exception for the health of the mother. Now, I don’t think that ‘mental distress’ qualifies as the health of the mother. I think it has to be a serious physical issue that arises in pregnancy, where there are real, significant problems to the mother carrying that child to term.

Flop: the health exception can include non-physical issues like mental diseases:

My only point is that in an area like partial birth abortion having a mental, having a health exception can be defined rigorously . . . It can be defined through physical health. It can be defined by serious clinical mental health diseases.

Video proof of a flip-flop is even better. Link that if you have it. I know there are videos like that out there. I want to know about all of them.

Maximum participation, people! If you do this well, I can bring it all together in a single, massive post that documents all of Obama’s flip-flops. In that post, I’ll credit each person who first documents a particular flip-flop to my satisfaction.

Now start documenting!



TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2008; flipflop; obama; obamatruthfile
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sounds like some good help to you Ernest. With my bad hearing I don’t go to video clips or You-Tube things.


21 posted on 07/07/2008 2:12:03 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: potlatch; InterceptPoint
The younger generation is getting their news from youTube....I know about hearing problems....

From the Comments at Patterico ...anExcerpt

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22 posted on 07/07/2008 2:24:07 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All; grundle
More resource material.....FR Thread:

Obama has shifted to the right on (at least) 12 important issues. Here they are.

**************************EXCERPT INTRO***********************

Posted on Sat 05 Jul 2008 01:16:06 PM PDT by grundleEdited on Sat 05 Jul 2008 01:55:47 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Obama has shifted to the right on unwarranted wiretapping, Israel, free trade, gun control, the death penalty, faith based programs, welfare reform, the Iraq war, abortion, the Patriot Act, campaign finance, and the Cuban embargo.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4264994.ece

July 4, 2008

Barack Obama's policy switches are giving the Left whiplash

The Democratic nominee's policy pivots are causing anguish among liberals.

By Gerard Baker

Change, it turns out, wasn't all that it was cracked up to be. Having campaigned for the past year as the agent of transformation, the man who would lead an historic shift in America's political direction, Barack Obama is discovering that there is quite a lot he likes about the way things are.

Since securing the Democratic nomination a few weeks ago, the only change coming from the Illinois senator has been in what he seems to stand for. Last month he dropped his opposition to a Bill before Congress that would give telecoms companies immunity from prosecution for carrying out illegal wiretaps on potential terrorist suspects.

He told a cheering crowd of Israel's supporters of his fervent commitment to the security of the Jewish state and added, for good measure, that an “undivided” Jerusalem should be the nation's capital. He said that he likes free trade after all, and that his primary campaign pledge to dismantle the North American Free Trade Agreement was a case of “overheated rhetoric”.

Last week he expressed support for a Supreme Court decision that struck down a ban on handguns and opposition to another that outlawed the death penalty for rape of a child.

This week he promised to expand President Bush's faith-based organisations initiative, a programme that channels funds to religious groups so that they can deliver social welfare services, which the Left regards as a heinous blurring of Church-State separation.

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http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/06/obama-shifts-on.html *

23 posted on 07/07/2008 2:28:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Obama is proposing to make it a felony for a gun owner whose firearm was stolen from his residence which causes harm to another person if that weapon was not securely stored in that home. [!!!]

Imagine that! A gun owner keeps a gun by his bedside, the thief breaks in, knocks out the owner, steals the gun and then uses the gun to harm someone else!

'While I was sleeping', who knew?

24 posted on 07/07/2008 2:35:29 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All
Not a flip-flop issue - 'yet', but...

Obama wants to mandate involuntary servitude;

"When I'm President, I will set a goal [requirement] for all American middle and high school students to perform 50 hours of [mandatory community] service a year, and for all college students to perform 100 hours of [mandatory community] service a year. This means that by the time you graduate college, you'll have done 17 weeks of [mandatory community] service."

Obviously he forgot the Thirteenth Amendment which reads as follows:

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

25 posted on 07/07/2008 3:08:34 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: All
That Times (UK) link has some good stuff:

Barack Obama's policy switches are giving the Left whiplash

***********************EXCERPT********************

From The Times
July 4, 2008

The Democratic nominee's policy pivots are causing anguish among liberals. He is no fool

Gerard Baker

Change, it turns out, wasn't all that it was cracked up to be. Having campaigned for the past year as the agent of transformation, the man who would lead an historic shift in America's political direction, Barack Obama is discovering that there is quite a lot he likes about the way things are.

Since securing the Democratic nomination a few weeks ago, the only change coming from the Illinois senator has been in what he seems to stand for. Last month he dropped his opposition to a Bill before Congress that would give telecoms companies immunity from prosecution for carrying out illegal wiretaps on potential terrorist suspects.

He told a cheering crowd of Israel's supporters of his fervent commitment to the security of the Jewish state and added, for good measure, that an “undivided” Jerusalem should be the nation's capital. He said that he likes free trade after all, and that his primary campaign pledge to dismantle the North American Free Trade Agreement was a case of “overheated rhetoric”.

Last week he expressed support for a Supreme Court decision that struck down a ban on handguns and opposition to another that outlawed the death penalty for rape of a child.

This week he promised to expand President Bush's faith-based organisations initiative, a programme that channels funds to religious groups so that they can deliver social welfare services, which the Left regards as a heinous blurring of Church-State separation.

If next week he named Dick Cheney as his running-mate and revealed that he spends his spare time drilling for oil in wildlife habitats, the only surprise would be that it took him so long.

Of course there's nothing much new in what the senator has done. In the lexicon of modern American politics, it's called a pivot. You campaign hard to the party's extreme in the primary election, where the base voters tend to be. Then, when the nomination is secure and there are no more idealists to be humoured, you pivot back to the centre. The only difference is that in Mr Obama's case the pivot is so hard and so fast that the entire Democratic Party is suffering from whiplash.

*****************HIGHLIGHT********************

A whimper of pain has gone up from the base. Those who really believed in the Audacity of Hope now fear a Timidity of Despair. Thousands of Obama supporters have signed a petition on his website begging him to reconsider his position on the illegal wiretaps - a seemingly minor campaign issue, but one that carries great talismanic symbolism for civil libertarians.

26 posted on 07/07/2008 3:17:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: potlatch



27 posted on 07/07/2008 3:40:34 PM PDT by devolve (- Danielle/Daniel Allen - brain-exempt androgynous Obama clone -)
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To: devolve

Obama’s a ‘hood ornament’?? snicker

This obviously has some deep meaning which eludes me.but I know how tricky your mind is.

‘Throw Obama under the Chevy’,
‘Obama gets ‘grilled’..
‘Obama - ‘in the hood’’..
I’m thinking, lol.


28 posted on 07/07/2008 3:52:29 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Nice Thread.

I’d like to add the video Obama first saying that Iran was no threat ‘cause they’re tiny. Then him saying they were a grave threat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynJwtYK05F8

I have an amusing video about Obama’s Flip Flop on Iraq using photos and cartoons I got on Free Republic,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDi-4AxQK_4

Best question I asked a Lib today; “Hey, now that Obama believes we shouldn’t leave until it’s stable, why don’t you?”


29 posted on 07/07/2008 4:14:30 PM PDT by Neville Chamberlain (Obamalamadindong)
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To: Grampa Dave

love the balloon picture. would like to see the rnc use it in an ad

like they say, “a picture is worth a thousand words”


30 posted on 07/07/2008 4:57:31 PM PDT by mouse1
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To: mouse1

The good thing about the world we live in, is simple.

We don’t have to wait for the RNC to consider using humor to take down the Obamination. We see it and use it.


31 posted on 07/07/2008 5:10:27 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (America's Mugabe, the Obamination.will bring Mugabe Change to America!)
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To: potlatch



32 posted on 07/07/2008 5:46:11 PM PDT by devolve (- Danielle/Daniel Allen - brain-exempt androgynous Obama clone -)
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To: devolve
OK, a ‘blessing of the cars’. That might be a flip-flop, especially if his levitation fails!
33 posted on 07/07/2008 5:53:17 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: devolve

ROFL!


34 posted on 07/07/2008 7:13:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Ernest_at_the_Beach

35 posted on 07/07/2008 7:37:10 PM PDT by devolve (- 57 - 58 - plus Alaska and Hawaai makes 60 states? -)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Thanks Ernest.


36 posted on 07/07/2008 9:13:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: devolve
Lovely....

Related thread:

Obama Spits on General Petraeus, Then Offers a Tissue for Cleanup

37 posted on 07/08/2008 2:26:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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