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To: Chief Engineer
This entire scenario is difficult to follow at best for an admitted part timer like myself. I would be interested in your take on the situation. Do you even think that Obama Sr is the father? At this point after seeing a ten minute video of Malcom X I have severe doubts.

From what I read over at Atlas Shrugs last night I am questioning whether or not Stanley Ann was impregnated in Washington state possibly Seattle and then moved to Hawaii.

7,738 posted on 05/24/2009 5:35:15 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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I actually believe that Obama Sr was his father but he was the result of a one night stand and over exuberant celebration of the election of JFK on Nov.1st/60. She hid the pregnancy from her parents and then made a deal with them that she would go back to Seattle, have the baby, give it up for adoption and then go to University of Washington which she had wanted to do all along anyway. Kind of like an “I’ll show you” behaviour on her part to get her own way. Remember Madelyn and Stanley Armour had both started new jobs and her condition would have brought disgrace to the family especially when it became known the child was the result of a one night stand with a black man. She stayed with her mother’s friend in Seattle and the friend made arrangements for her to go to a home for unwed mothers in Vancouver B.C. prior to the birth, where the racial mixures wouldn’t raise as many eyebrows as it would in Seattle. Seattle still had a separate ward and nursery and residential area for blacks at the time. Being at a home for unwed mothers would explain why she didn’t know how to change diapers as per testimony from Susan Blake. She had registered for classes at UW August 21st but didn’t mention this fact to either Susan Blake or Maxine Box and eventhough Maxine Box described Ann as her best friend in high school, Maxine was unaware that Ann was attending UW at the same time as Maxine was. Susan mentioned that Jr was “very new and very pink” when Ann came to visit which meant he had not had his melanin coloring “erupt” yet so he was quite a newborn.
From other sources we know the original flight of Kenyan students left Kenya Sept.5/59 and arrived in NYC Sept.9/59 which is a period of 4 days. Over a period of 4 days on a plane Ann would have learned to change diapers but she would not in a home for unwed mothers where contact between mothers and babies was not encouraged.
I think Madelyn and Stanley paid off Obama Sr to keep his mouth shut and Ann didn’t return to HI until he had left the island. She returned in the fall of 1962 well after he left June 22,1962.
After she gave birth at the home she changed her mind about giving the baby up, phoned her mother’s friend to come and get her and then phoned HI to let them know what she had done, propelling Madelyn into action registering the birth at Vital Stats which generated the birth anouncements in both local papers. She then rented the apartment on Capitol Hill and took the first few courses by correspondence while Jr slept, actually attending classes for the second and third semesters.
Think about it, why didn’t Madelyn’s co-workers even know she had a grandson until he returned to the island at the age of 10, and why did Stanley Armour mention to a co-worker at Hancock Insurance in the 1970s, “Did you ever see the movie “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner?” Well I’ve lived it” What Ann did affected both of her parents deeply!The registration of birth in HI is for the most part correct except for place of birth and is a red herring, Madelyn HAD to register the birth to hide the fact that her stubborn daughter had gone back on the deal and given birth to a son in Canada. Jr not releasing the original birth certificate is his F you moment as well as an “I don’t have to do anything I don’t want to because I won”. The original certificate in HI will have all the correct info on it but it will show that the family lied right from the start to hide the facts of his birth.
As for any “resemblance to Malcolm X” Jr had to fashion himself after someone and he chose Malcolm X, there is no familial relationship there, just wishful thinking on Jr’s part, the poor lil abandoned boy who had been abandoned by both parents. He simply studied the man and his mannerisms no more no less. As Ann’s friends testified she and her friends would cross the street to avoid contact with any blacks and Mercer Island while the Dunhams lived there was 100% lilly white. Ann never had a boyfriend while in high school if you delve deeply enough into her background beyond the writing of various “presstitutes” so Obama Sr was her case of “puppy love”.


7,751 posted on 05/24/2009 3:32:56 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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