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To: Myrddin; Jim Robinson
This is one issue that can legally torpedo Obama. One that could be solved with a minimal fee to request an official birth certificate from the county recorder's office where he was born. His inability to do this simple act to prove his native born eligibility implies he is not eligible and is trying all manner of distractions to avoid the issue.

A little more effort may be required than that. You can expect that when and if the original Hawaii records turn up, there will be some kind of persuasive record of a Hawaii birth--maybe home birth; maybe something else. The reason the campaign is concealing those records is because there is evidence in them that would lead to the real story if pursued.

The most helpful evidence that could be obtained is two things: A birth record from Kenya demonstrating that he was born there; and, a marriage record from Kenya demonstrating that Stanley Ann and Obama Sr. were married there. The birth record search should be from mid July to early August, 1961; the marriage record search should be from January 1961 to April 30, 1961.

Other things should be done--the address in the birth announcement should be searched at the title company as well as should the neighboring properties; people who owned, leased, or occupied at that time period should be contacted.

As everyone will recall, Kenya was a British colony in this period and adequate records will have been kept. The suggestion has appeared that those records were moved to London with copies remaining in Mombasa or Nairobi.

Fiche copies are reportedly located in Salt Lake City with a Historical Genealogy Library. The Mormon birth records may also contain copies. Anyone in that area who could do so should undertake a search.

4,106 posted on 08/01/2008 11:02:47 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: David

Going to www.familysearch.org there is no mention of date of marriage or mention of Ann’s ‘second’ marriage which makes it seem rather hinky to me. Seeing the name of the person who submitted the information I did a google search and the most hits for the name are for an architect in Chicago.

Of further interest is the fact that the earlier link for the newspaper which I provided was for ‘The Honolulu Advertiser” when the article Obama mentions of his father’s interview which he found with his birth certicate is clearly mentioned as being from ‘The Honolulu Star - Bullentin’! Just more inconsistency IMHO.

Also surfing through the various websites a Hilliary supporter from HI claims Sr and Ann were never married and she knows a woman who was involved with Sr after Ann became pregnant. She reportedly sent the woman’s name and e-mail address to an unmentioned reporter but has heard nothing back.


4,107 posted on 08/01/2008 1:00:53 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: David
Fiche copies are reportedly located in Salt Lake City with a Historical Genealogy Library. The Mormon birth records may also contain copies. Anyone in that area who could do so should undertake a search.

That's highly unlikely. The "Historical Genealogy Library" to which you refer is the same one owned and operated by the Mormons, and the vast majority of the Family History Library's  records are for "persons born before 1930," which is the current standard in genealogy records, for obvious reasons. You can search the FH Library online here. About all you'll come up with for Kenya are maps of Nairobi.

The FH Library does have records which are not accessible to the general public, due to restrictions placed on them by the donor/government involved, but those items, databases or collections would also be listed in the catalog, and marked accordingly. 

African-American genealogy is the newest marketing push by Ancestry (which dominates the online market), but you'll find from just a quick glance at most AA sites that most, if not all, of the records available are American in origin. There is a general lack of African records across the board.

Finally, if the FH Library had such records, they would have been found by researchers for Hillary or McCain (with the help of Romney, who would certainly carry some influence with the FHC).

4,117 posted on 08/02/2008 6:16:50 AM PDT by browardchad
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