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To: Calpernia; Polarik; SE Mom; David
On Texas Darlin thread Divided Loyalties, Obama’s Eligibility Problem, PART 2 [REVISED] Amazonia seems to be saying there is a HI ColB for Maya from 1971. I haven't heard that before. Anyone know?

Amazonia // July 27, 2008 at 9:18 pm

To miri,on July 26-08, at 11:33 pm.

Texasdarlin had a post on July 19-08 (BO was born in two hospitals, Sister Maya was born twice). It says there is a report that Maya was born in 1970, and another that she was born in 1971. Apparently Maya gave an interview to some magazine saying she was born in Java; but there is a copy of a Birth Certificate in the TD post showing a birth in Hawaii in 1971, AND that “birth certificate” has a NUMBER in it.

Can you make anything out of the data and number on that posted “birth certificate”?


3,939 posted on 07/27/2008 6:41:29 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Fred Nerks

See post above.


3,940 posted on 07/27/2008 6:47:10 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Texasdarlin had a post on July 19-08 (BO was born in two hospitals, Sister Maya was born twice). It says there is a report that Maya was born in 1970, and another that she was born in 1971. Apparently Maya gave an interview to some magazine saying she was born in Java; but there is a copy of a Birth Certificate in the TD post showing a birth in Hawaii in 1971, AND that “birth certificate” has a NUMBER in it.

Can you make anything out of the data and number on that posted “birth certificate”?

Lori, who did the work on Texas D's site locating the newspaper article also had a post where she set out the Hawaii Health Department position on where the data came from--"the hospital".

I have never believed that. That might be the case today and it might be an enforceable position. However given the Hawaii statute about affidavit based certificates and other side types of procedures, you have no real ideal what the basis for the Hawaii filing was until you see the actual piece of paper.

I have assumed that Obama was born in Kenya, perhaps as late as August 4, 1961, perhaps a day or two earlier. As soon as possible, he and his mother got on a BOA airplane in Nairobi, through Glaskow to Vancouver B.C.; ground transportation to Seattle and Mercer Island; next day through Sea Tac to Hawaii; to file some kind of out-of-hospital birth notice with Department of health on 8 August.

The 1971 Maya birth record reflects a comparable kind of filing by someone who knew how to do it--to support a subsequent claim by Maya of U S Citizenship, perhaps. The number is important--if the middle numbers are 1971, that will be the alleged date of birth. The record would show that she was in fact born in 1970.

3,941 posted on 07/27/2008 7:14:03 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: bvw; Calpernia

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/

thanks for the ping, just correcting your link...for the above...but I can’t find anything from July 27.

This is the one I like:

Barack was Born in 2 Hospitals, Sister Maya was Born Twice!

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/19/in-which-hospital-was-obama-born-pt-2/

http://i36.tinypic.com/20zsg20.jpg

BUT, there are also several references, such as this Wikipedia report, that say Maya Soertoro was born on Aug. 15, 1970.

Now, is it just a coincidence that there’s conflicting information about Ms. Soertoro’s birth, or is it additional evidence of the confusing manner with which Stanley Ann Dunham had her childrens’ births recorded?


3,942 posted on 07/27/2008 7:16:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: bvw

<< On Texas Darlin thread Divided Loyalties, Obama’s Eligibility Problem, PART 2 [REVISED] Amazonia seems to be saying there is a HI ColB for Maya from 1971. I haven’t heard that before. Anyone know?

Amazonia // July 27, 2008 at 9:18 pm

To miri,on July 26-08, at 11:33 pm.

Texasdarlin had a post on July 19-08 (BO was born in two hospitals, Sister Maya was born twice). It says there is a report that Maya was born in 1970, and another that she was born in 1971. Apparently Maya gave an interview to some magazine saying she was born in Java; but there is a copy of a Birth Certificate in the TD post showing a birth in Hawaii in 1971, AND that “birth certificate” has a NUMBER in it.

Can you make anything out of the data and number on that posted “birth certificate”? >>

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This is the item that Texasdarlin posted http://i36.tinypic.com/20zsg20.jpg

That is a screen shot from a public records listing at Ancestry.
It is not a birth record.

Per their notes -Ancestry’s public records’ index includes records from 1984 - current, from sources such as: ‘White pages, Directory assistance records , Marketing lists , Postal change-of-address forms, Public record filings , Historical residential records’

Note that on that record for Maya, that her age is given as 36, so it would be a record of some sort from 2007, where info about her age or/DOB was provided. Side note - that is the same address that had been listed for Madelyn in these records.

Hope that helps clarify ...

> ‘nother side note, here’s another listing that also seems to be Maya

Ancestry.com. Nevada Marriage Index
Name: Maya Kasandra Soetoro
Gender: Female

Spouse: Konrad Gar-Yeu Ng
Marriage Date: 21 Jan 2003
Marriage County: Clark
Officiant type: Religious celebrant
Recorded date: 23 Jan 2003
Recorded county: Clark
Book: 123
Page: D520068
Instrument number: 77201

Recall reading somewhere that Barry spoke at the wedding...
perhaps they had another ceremony somewhere

~kate


3,951 posted on 07/27/2008 11:12:11 PM PDT by Hush44
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