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To: SE Mom

If it’s proven that that certificate really is a fake - and if Obama’s real birth certificate shows that he was not born a U.S. citizen - do you know what the fallout could be? Hillary Clinton would probably get the Democratic nomination after all.


12 posted on 07/03/2008 4:43:54 PM PDT by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: Irish Rose

I’ve thought about this a great deal- because if this is all that it appears and this BC is fraudulent- then yes- most likely Hillary will get the nod in Denver.

It’s all pretty sobering. What will liberals, socialists and regular old Democrats do? What will it do to the country?


23 posted on 07/03/2008 4:49:13 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Irish Rose
and if Obama’s real birth certificate shows that he was not born a U.S. citizen

I suspicion it's not the place of birth he doesn't want seen...

What was his name at birth? was it Barry Dunham -

Why is the race of his mother listed as "Caucasian" but of his father "African"?

"African" is not a race. People of all colors and races are born in Africa.

What is it that the obamination doesn't want us to see?

51 posted on 07/03/2008 5:02:20 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: Irish Rose
do you know what the fallout could be?

Lots of Urban areas on fire would be my guess.

80 posted on 07/03/2008 5:16:39 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Irish Rose
Interesting proposition. If he were shown not to be a citizen prior to the convention, Hillary would almost certainly get the nomination.

If he were nominated and then shown not to be a citizen prior to the election, two courses of action seem open. First, an emergency party convention could be held and HRC would get the nomination. In the second course, they could continue supporting him at whatever the cost reasoning that they had gone too far to drop his nomination. The first case would run into all sorts of legal problems and contravene all sorts of party rules. The second case could ensure their defeat if McCain decides to use his opponent's lack of qualifications for the job as a campaign issue.

If Obama is actually elected and then shown not to be a citizen prior to the swearing in ceremony, the Chief Justice would presumably decline to swear him into office on the basis of his not being a citizen.

This brings up the final scenario. Obama is elected, shown not to be eligible for office and 'accidents' occur leaving only Justice Ginsburg or Souter alive. Then Ginsburg or Souter would swear him in in a New York minute. After all, that 'natural born citizen' stuff was written by dead white men in a different time, we live in a brave new multicultural world, and the Constitution, being a living document, needs to change with the times.

189 posted on 07/03/2008 6:14:04 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Irish Rose

Oh like any of us would be surprised by Hillary getting the nomination. I can’t say much would surprise me any more.


199 posted on 07/03/2008 6:20:19 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Media -)
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To: Irish Rose
do you know what the fallout could be?

I'll venture a guess:

  1. The Democrats and all their Drive By Media will chant the talking point, "It's just a technicality", and bull their way forward.
  2. McCain will decline to push the issue.
  3. If some sort of legal action is taken derailing the anointing of the messiah, cities will burn.

771 posted on 07/04/2008 8:46:51 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Given such dismal choices, I guess I'll vote for the old guy.)
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To: Irish Rose
One has to ask...if the Obama campaign is willing to hide his certificate with a fake, there are only three possibilities:

1. The real one shows that Obama is not really a citizen.

2. The real one shows October Surprise material, something so bad that it may interfere very badly with his campaign. There has been specualtion, for instance, that the original will somehow provide evidence that his father was married to one or more women other than his mother. Just an indication that his parents represented themselves to the State as unmarried would be enough evidence to get somebody on that trail and open that can of worms.

3. Obama is so incompetent he can't successfully oversee the maintenance of his personal documents.

None of those possibilities is very palatable to me, an American who was already wondering with horror how the heck this neophyte got to be seriously considered for the job of leading the free world.

826 posted on 07/04/2008 10:10:37 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Irish Rose

How could he not be a citizen if his mother is a citizen?


1,634 posted on 07/05/2008 11:46:31 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Irish Rose

To make a long story short:

“Hillary Clinton endorses Obama” theater

http://last-antichrist.blogspot.com/2007/05/hillary-clinton-2008-for-dummies-two.html


1,635 posted on 07/05/2008 11:49:49 PM PDT by VlPu
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To: TruthNtegrity

boomarking...........


2,500 posted on 07/08/2008 5:50:36 PM PDT by TruthNtegrity (Praying for Tony Snow.)
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To: Irish Rose

There is still a month before the convention.


3,818 posted on 07/20/2008 3:32:51 PM PDT by Peelod
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To: Irish Rose

yet the Dinosaur Media refuses to report this story.

if this were a republican (we keep saying this these days) the leftists of the media would be SCREAMING DEMANDS for a document check.


4,088 posted on 08/01/2008 8:12:49 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Irish Rose

And not a black or yute would vote for her.


4,698 posted on 08/10/2008 8:48:56 AM PDT by MarkT
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To: Irish Rose
Hillary Clinton would probably get the Democratic nomination after all.

And what about all the nice things that Bill has been saying about McCain lately. "Oh, ..., Never mind!"

5,889 posted on 09/29/2008 4:04:23 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign state.)
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To: Irish Rose

That seems to be what Hillary is planning. Of course she has to have Soros blessing. They put McCain in there thinking he would wilt so fast it would be zip, nada, Hillary President.

I wonder how Sarah Palin fits into the scheme of things.


5,921 posted on 09/30/2008 5:30:47 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Irish Rose
Hillary Clinton would probably get the Democratic nomination after all.

Perhaps, but I think that most ballots have already been printed. I don't think they can get her name on the ballot by Nov 4.

6,034 posted on 10/20/2008 9:25:54 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: Irish Rose

Do you really think there’s anything that can stop this man from being sworn in? Even Michelle said there’s no law that will stop him. And there are no law MAKERS who will lift a finger to stop him even if it’s proven he was born in Kenya and joined Al Queda as a kid. Everyone is willing to destroy the country rather than risk a race war.


6,347 posted on 11/11/2008 10:45:22 AM PST by Terry Mross ( It's just a matter of time before we're all 'GUILTY' of hate speech.)
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To: Irish Rose

“Hillary Clinton would probably get the Democratic nomination after all.”

Uh, no. I think not. If it’s proven that Zero deliberately defrauded the country, with the help of the damned DemocRats who didn’t want to vet him, I would say we need to throw the entire frickin group of Rats out of office....cause it’s obrious that they’re not only too crooked to trust in office, they’re traitors to the US and everything this country stands for.


8,458 posted on 09/30/2009 12:20:10 AM PDT by XenaLee
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