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To: txflake
Obama sure flew a lot for a child who can’t produce a legitimate birth certificate.

His mother would have had an up to date passport on which the son, probably known as Barry Dunham, and later adopted as Soetoro, would have been included. Minor children don't require their own passports, do they?

It's not the existence of a birth certificate as such that we are discussing, I'm sure he has one somewhere...but until he produces it, regardless of what it reveals, (perhaps his name really is/was Barry Dunham and his parents were not married?)the questions will continue.

The COLB posted on the fightthesmears website just makes things worse. I have better documentation for my pedigreed dogs!

I was also adopted, granted it was a long time ago, I travelled from Germany to Australia on my stepfather's passport - and because of the adoption, I became POLISH, taking the nationality of the adoptive parent.

This opens up a whole new can of worms. Obama just might be Indonesian...and hold a dual Indonesian/American passport. One lie just leads to another...

1,162 posted on 07/04/2008 10:58:21 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

He very well might be legally Indonesian.

I frankly do not recall a prior election where we cannot discern the nationality or eligibility of a candidate for POTUS.

And where such candidate presents a fraudulent birth certificate.


1,168 posted on 07/04/2008 11:13:09 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Fred Nerks

His mom and dad met in Russian class correct?

Why were they taking russian? To help the American government or the Russian Government?l Sounds like two commie lovers loving communism.


1,183 posted on 07/04/2008 11:52:46 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Fred Nerks
His mother would have had an up to date passport on which the son, probably known as Barry Dunham, and later adopted as Soetoro, would have been included.

Is it possible that an official COLB from Hawaii would give "Soetoro" as the name for the candidate now known as Barak Obama? Depending upon how he was adopted, that would seem plausible. If that is indeed the case, Barak might argue that the certificate he posted was "fake but accurate" since he obviously wasn't born with the Soetoro name. I doubt the media would care that a "fake but accurate document" is a fake document.

1,190 posted on 07/05/2008 12:15:30 AM PDT by supercat
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To: Fred Nerks
His mother would have had an up to date passport on which the son, probably known as Barry Dunham, and later adopted as Soetoro, would have been included. Minor children don't require their own passports, do they?

I guess I don't know what the law was in 1961, but when I flew overseas in 1987, my newborn son needed a passport. If the law was the same in 1961, and BHO was born in Kenya, as some here suggest as a reason to forge a US birth certificate, then how did he even manage to enter the country?

This forged birth certificate matters, I think, but the story of birth in Kenya just carries less and less credibility the more I try to learn where that rumor started. And if he was born in Hawaii, then the forged online certificate proves nothing, that will have any significant political impact.

I still think, if indeed the certificate on Obama's official site is derived from the forged one (as it appears to be) the campaign needs to respond in some way - such as producing his actual certificate, on paper, for a legitimate news organization to examine.

1,232 posted on 07/05/2008 6:03:42 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: Fred Nerks
Obama just might be Indonesian...and hold a dual Indonesian/American passport.

Indonesia, Indo nesia, indonesia... Hmmmm. What's so special about Indonesia?

*ponders*

*ponders some more*

Could it be...that...Indonesia is the world largest MUSLIM country?

1,260 posted on 07/05/2008 8:20:31 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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