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Obama’s BIG Birth Certificate PROBLEM (Freeper credited)
No Quarter ^ | 6/20/08 | Staff

Posted on 06/21/2008 10:56:04 AM PDT by pissant

I have acquired additional information related to my earlier posts today (at my blog) on the subject of Barack Obama’s ‘Certification of Live Birth.’

My first post on this subject, Obama Birth Certificate, Fake?, included an analysis that I came across by a blogger named Polarik, who concluded based on “20 years of experience in computers, printers, and typewriters” that the document provided by the Obama campaign (and published by Daily Kos) was manufactured.

In a subsequent post, Certification of Birth from Hawaii: Where’s the Seal?, I showed a ‘Certification of Live Birth’ from Honolulu County for Patricia Decosta, which I found posted at Free Republic (thanks to reader shainzona). (And yes, I know it’s a “right wing” publication but that does not make the information false).

Here is the document posted by the Obama campaign on its Fight the Smears website as evidence of Obama’s birth in Hawaii in 1961:

And here is Ms. Decosta’s certification:

Now, compare the two documents. Polarik’s technical analysis notwithstanding, my lay person’s eye noticed three differences right away:

1. Ms. Decosta’s certification displays fold marks, which you might expect to see on a document sent through the mail.

2. The certificate number on Obama’s document is blacked out; Ms. Decosta’s is not.

AND

3. An embossed seal is visible on Ms. Decosta’s certification; there is no embossed seal on Obama’s. (You can see the embossed seal very clearly on the larger image at FR here.)

The Vital Records office in Hawaii has confirmed the following with respect to requests for certified copies of birth certificates:

1. Certifications of live birth are always mailed from the VR office, and never transmitted electronically.

2. Certificate numbers are never blacked out.

AND

3. Certifications will always have an embossed seal.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; fraud; hawii; kos; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamatruthfile
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To: WilliamReading

And why would there be no fold lines if it was mailed, and not printed from some hacks PC. ROFL


61 posted on 06/21/2008 11:42:35 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Were her parents living abroad in the military or in government service?


62 posted on 06/21/2008 11:44:45 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Trouble is brewing.

Beer for our popcorn.

63 posted on 06/21/2008 11:45:50 AM PDT by Stentor (Obama supporters. Letting the little void do the thinking for the big void.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I wonder how many of Rezko chum Levine’s gay coke parties Obama attended?


64 posted on 06/21/2008 11:46:07 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Stentor

Free Larry Sinclair! LOL


65 posted on 06/21/2008 11:46:36 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

I’ve been posting all morning on this. So I’m glad that someone else has picked up on this as wll. I’m going to repeat what I’ve found this past week. PLEASE READ the following.

I googled “Obama’s birthplace” and got the following:

1. From Wikipedia

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama )

Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at the Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Obama, Sr., of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, of Wichita, Kansas.

COMMENT:This is different from other sites that list OBAMA was born at Queen’s Medical Center.

( see:http://www.barackobamaismyhomeboy.com/biography )

ALSO: Kapiolani Hospital did not open until 1989 although the Hospital for women and children was open at the time. This discrepancy in my mind is interesting as there is a descrepancy.

2. Did his mother and father attend school in Hawaii during the summer of 1961 or did they go to Kenya as it is rumored?

3. There is absolutely NO mention of when and where his parents were married. No date, nothing. Obama admits in his biography that he didn’t look this up. There is also no mention of when they were legally divorced if they were at all, since Obama, Sr was presumably married at the time to someone else.

COMMENTS: Again, we are talking about the presidency of the United States here. The birth history and ancestry of the person taking this office should be crystal clear. In fact, it is NOT crystal clear and IT IS BASED ENTIRELY FROM THIS MAN’S AUTOBIOGRAPHY.

The points I raise should be easy to look up. How can one look up the marriage records of the parents?

SOMETHING DOES NOT ADD UP HERE. WHAT IS THIS GUY HIDING?


66 posted on 06/21/2008 11:48:15 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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To: WilliamReading

Yep.


67 posted on 06/21/2008 11:48:27 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: snarks_when_bored

If there is nothing to hide, why Photoshop?...

That seems the $64 question.


68 posted on 06/21/2008 11:50:12 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 107 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: nikos1121

Well silly, they were obviously married and conceived Barak right after the march in Selma in 1965. Obama said so.


69 posted on 06/21/2008 11:50:23 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Anyone have Dan Rather’s number?

LOL.
70 posted on 06/21/2008 11:51:00 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: pissant

There’s more.

I think Obama can lay to rest this whole thing if he produces:

1. The hospital records of his birth.
2. The newspaper listing of the birth.
3. Other affidavits of nurses or doctors who recall the birth. The man is famous and most likely those working at the time would remember the young white girl and black Kenyan.
4. Everything regarding this guy’s birth records are taken from his own autobio. Beckwith, a fellow Freeper, has shown this on his Obama File.

nikos1121


71 posted on 06/21/2008 11:52:49 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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To: beezdotcom; pissant

The rev #s on the bottom of the certs are the same yet the certs look different.


72 posted on 06/21/2008 11:53:02 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Donate to FR anytime at https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: Bobkk47

Bump.


73 posted on 06/21/2008 11:53:25 AM PDT by fatima
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To: Lady Jag

One was printed and mailed to the recipient from the Hawaii gov’t. the other was produced on some Koskid’s laptop.


74 posted on 06/21/2008 11:54:43 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I had an inferiority complex once then I found out I really was inferior and the complex became simple.


75 posted on 06/21/2008 11:55:49 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: pissant

PIssant,

I’m glad you posted this. We’ve been under heat for the past couple weeks, because we’re not letting this die. I think, too that the BC is a fraud. Even if it isn’t it does not list hospital, wt and length. Someone also pointed out here that the father is listed as African when it should be Negro or Negroid.

I want to see the original BC and birth records for starters.


76 posted on 06/21/2008 11:56:23 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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To: Bobkk47

It certainly is not certified. And it is a fake to boot.


77 posted on 06/21/2008 11:56:34 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: nikos1121

The $20,000 question is this—why would there be a fake birth certificate put out there. The most obvious reason is that he was not born in the United States, thus, disqualifying him from being president.

Other reasons—his name is not really Barack Obama or his father’s name is missing from the birth certificate.


78 posted on 06/21/2008 11:56:41 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe ("Victory at all costs...for without true victory, there is no survival." Winston Churchill)
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To: pissant
And why would there be no fold lines if it was mailed, and not printed from some hacks PC. ROFL

Has there been any analysis on whether a laminated copy would affect the way the print looks or how the embossed seal would show up? Don't know if that's an option in Hawaii, but other states will provide a laminated copy if requested.
79 posted on 06/21/2008 11:56:48 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: pissant

Judicial Watch should sue in Federal Court to challenge BHO’s qualifications to run for POTUS. A simple Federal subpoena could clear this up.

Larry — are you listening???


80 posted on 06/21/2008 11:57:32 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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