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Obama’s BIG Birth Certificate PROBLEM (Freeper credited)
No Quarter ^ | 6/20/08 | Staff

Posted on 06/21/2008 10:56:04 AM PDT by pissant

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To: Cheburashka

You may be right.That it is questionable shows how low the standards have sunk in this country.


201 posted on 06/21/2008 3:46:56 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: pissant
I am going to play devil's advocate here.

First, why is the paper's different (border, etc)?- Possible answer, different registrar's office supplied it.

Second, why isn't it folded?- Possible answer, it was picked up directly from the registrar's office, not mailed.

Third, why isn't there a stamp or signature?- Possible answer, it is on the back (there is something that appears to be a date that is showing through). A different registrar’s office may use a stamp instead of an embossing machine.

Fourth, why is ‘African’ listed as a race for the father?- Possible answer, that is what the father put on the original birth certificate, being not from the US and knowing what terminology we use.

I think we need to understand we may be following a path that Obama’s side wants us to because they know it is keeping us from focusing on issues or policy gaffs.

Another possibility could be I thought of earlier, however, that his mom is not his real mother, he was adopted as an infant. If his real mother was also from Africa or not a US citizen. I see absolutely no resemblance between him and his ‘mom’.
http://www.barackobama.net/pictures/barack-obama-mother.jpg

202 posted on 06/21/2008 3:49:07 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: devolve; Lady Jag; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; MeekOneGOP

Hi devolve
I guess I’m a bit different but these type of threads drive me up the wall, everybody wanting to ‘prove’ something and the nitpicking goes on and on.

Lady Jag, an art professional, explained how copies could be distorted, answering the remarks of many here - but do you think anyone will pay attention?

I have my ‘original’ birth certificate too, very ornate and pretty with a big gold seal and my little footprint. But it’s for ‘souvenir’ purposes only, not officially good for anything.

My “sent away for” copies from Pennsylvania are plain jane documents and If I were going to post one on the internet for the world to see, I would black out the serial number too.

Wouldn’t you think Republicans would have delved into this before now and revealed it if it was all false? Maybe I’m naive..


203 posted on 06/21/2008 3:49:45 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: potlatch

“Wouldn’t you think Republicans would have delved into this before now”?

No


204 posted on 06/21/2008 3:59:55 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: nikos1121
He may be hiding things on he original BC that are more embarrassing for him than disqualifying,.

What would that be? We all know who his father is. We know he left him and his mother. Further more it's 2008, no need to be embarrassed by anything like that. The only thing I can think of that would be embarrassing is if his name on the certificate isn't Barrack Obama.

205 posted on 06/21/2008 4:01:15 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: pepperhead

Yep, ‘Barry Dunham’ would take one of his most annoying and oft-repeated lines about his funny name—and then some.


206 posted on 06/21/2008 4:03:10 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cheburashka
If you have the proper authorization and passwords you could change the race of every baby born in 1961 to “Cylon”.

Think you on to something. Barack Hussein Obama is the fifth cylon. He will be reviled after he is sworn in on one of the final episodes of BSG. ;)

207 posted on 06/21/2008 4:12:23 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: pissant

I would find that hard to believe, there are always ‘glory seekers’ out there!


208 posted on 06/21/2008 4:14:59 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: nikos1121
Intellius.com search:

We searched Barack Obama in HI and found 0 records

209 posted on 06/21/2008 4:22:41 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: windcliff

ping


210 posted on 06/21/2008 4:29:03 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: potlatch

Well, we are delving now. And this thing is a fraud, IMEO


211 posted on 06/21/2008 4:31:52 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pepperhead
He might be the fifth Cylon, but since they played “All Along the Watchtower” I sort of suspect it's Bob Dylan.

And wouldn't that be a plot twist.

212 posted on 06/21/2008 4:47:07 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Democratic Underground: Ever wonder where all those who took the brown acid at Woodstock wound up?)
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To: potlatch

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Don’t make the mistake of thing the GOP is smarter &/or more professional than FReepers

They never would have caught the Dan Rather faked documents in 2004 without some sharp FReepers exposing it a few seconds

I have two (2) documents

One original from the hospital that is correct

One “orginal” the state issued from info from a nurse at the hospital - It is wrong - but was “official”

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It took some doing to correct the state document

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If the hospital &/or state in Hawaii has the signed and sealed original or a signed and sealed copy it would only take seconds to furnish a legally notorized and signed copy

This is not for hanging on the wall or for framing

Barack Hussein Obama has some reason for not providing a copy of the original

This thread today said the KOS and official Obama graphic differed

Is either of them honest and trustworthy?

Both are propaganda machines and their records are well known for lies, distortions, and worse

If Obama wore mismatched color socks I’d let it go

This is a bit more important

His mother is dead

His father is dead

Their word was worthless anyway

Don’t expect officials in radical leftist Hawaai to provide anything


213 posted on 06/21/2008 4:48:35 PM PDT by devolve (- Men - I want you all to relax! Let the 101st Airborne try again in 4 years! - Gen. George Patton)
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To: mnehrling
Third, why isn't there a stamp or signature?- Possible answer, it is on the back (there is something that appears to be a date that is showing through). A different registrar’s office may use a stamp instead of an embossing machine.

Sorry, that one has been absolutely ruled out. I confirmed with HI that as long as these forms have been used, there has always been BOTH a stamped signature and an embossed seal. Yes they are on the back, but the embossed seal is very visible from the front. This is straight from the horses mouth.

214 posted on 06/21/2008 4:51:42 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: pepperhead

It’s rumored that the name is Barry Dunham


215 posted on 06/21/2008 4:55:48 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Did you search:

Barry Dunham August 4, 1961 Honolulu
Barry Obama August 4, 1961 “
Ann Dunham August 4, 1961 “
Barack H Obama August 4, 1961 “

I think if there was a birth it would have been listed in the local newspaper. Is there anyone in Honolulu who can access the archives of the local newspapers there to see if there is a listing of Obama’s birth on Aug 4, 1961?


216 posted on 06/21/2008 4:58:39 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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To: pissant

Pissant, you are now one of my Heroes.


217 posted on 06/21/2008 5:09:42 PM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: AmericaUnited
No, you're the one that doesn't get it.

This is a snipe hunt they're sending us on. And they're laughing at us.

They have a piece of paper from the State of Hawaii that states he was born in Honolulu County, etc. Examining the jpg does nothing to prove whether the piece of paper is genuine. They want us to waste our time on the jpg.

218 posted on 06/21/2008 5:25:29 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Democratic Underground: Ever wonder where all those who took the brown acid at Woodstock wound up?)
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To: devolve; pissant; PhilDragoo

No, I didn’t make the mistake here...

My birth certificates, both original and official ones, have my middle name wrong. Another family member’s also has their first name wrong. It has never made a difference in any official interaction in our lives.

Hope this doesn’t turn out like the huge thread that ranted on and on that the 75 thousand at a rally for Obama couldn’t possibly be right!

I cited others comments that there was possibly a concert associated with it and I posted links from the city firemen and EMS people saying it WAS 75 thousand but ‘no one’ responded.

The next day it was verified in a thread that there was a concert and the crowd WAS 75 thousand. Think anyone ever admitted that they were wrong?

I believe government officials have the capacity to “delve”
more deeply than Mr everyday man - or “woman”. I’ve been here 7 years and don’t recall too many ‘expose’s’.

I wouldn’t doubt there may soon be a thread about Obama wearing mis-matched socks.


219 posted on 06/21/2008 6:07:03 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: potlatch

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I’m off this thread


220 posted on 06/21/2008 6:25:21 PM PDT by devolve (- Men - I want you all to relax! Let the 101st Airborne try again in 4 years! - Gen. George Patton)
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