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Who has more credibility? Obama or Sinclair
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Posted on 06/20/2008 8:17:06 AM PDT by pissant

Larry Sinclair held a press conference Wednesday to try to get the media to investigate his claims of a sexual liaison with Barack Obama, and drug use. These events occurred, allegedly in 1999. You can view the press conference here. And his original video here. Other videos and info can be found here and here.

Many people in the media do not believe Larry to be credible because he has a past police record (from incidents that occurred 20+ years ago). People have ridiculed him and tried to discredit his story because he is on disability, which is due to an injury.

But, in looking at both men, neither of whom I know very well AT ALL, I have an opinion on who is more credible.

Let's look at them, side by side.

Larry Sinclair has an admitted drug past, including marijuana and cocaine. Barack Obama has an admitted drug past including underage drinking, marijuana and cocaine.

Larry Sinclair has changed his name a few times. (Lawrence W. Sinclair, La-Rye A. Silvas, La-Rye Vizcarra Avila) Barack Obama has changed his name a few time. (Barry Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barack Hussein Obama, Barack Obama)

Larry Sinclair has lived out of the country - Mexico. Barack Obama has lived out of the country - Indonesia.

Larry Sinclair is a convicted felon. Barack Obama is an unconvicted felon. (possession of cocaine is a felony, Obama was just never caught)

Larry Sinclair has served time in jail. Barack Obama's close friends have served time in jail. (William Ayers, Tony Rezko - and there are others who probably should be in jail)

Larry Sinclair says that he rented a limo, and they partied in the limo, and the next day, Obama came to his hotel room. Barack Obama associate Stuart Levine, who testified in the Rezko trial, led a "secret life" in which he allegedly engaged in all-night drug-fueled sex parties, some in hotels in Lincolnwood and Springfield, during the late 90's. He also is alleged to have been seen using drugs in his office during business hours.

Larry Sinclair has been upfront about all of his past crimes, never lying about them. Barack Obama has lied to the American people many times. (his knowledge of Wright's sermons, his smoking, his association with William Ayers, Rezko, NAFTA, his talks with the PM of Iraq, Public Finance of Elections...)

Larry Sinclair has provided all of his records, including hotel receipts, cell phone numbers, the name of the Limo Driver, and cell numbers for Donald Young. Barack Obama has not revealed his IL State Senate Records. His campaigns only public acknowledgment of the Larry Sinclair situation was sending a lawyer to Puerto Rico to counter Larry's appearance on a TV program there.

Larry Sinclair has released his health records. Barack Obama has not released his health records, just a note from his doctor. (nor has he released his birth certificate)

Larry Sinclair has never flip flopped on his claims against Barack Obama. Barack Obama has flip flopped on many, many issues including his church, what he knew, when he knew it, his flag pin, campaign finance, NAFTA, Rezko and his role in the campaign, and the amount of money Rezko donated, his home....)

Larry Sinclair has appeared on radio and tv, unscripted, and is convincing, and does not make gaffes. Barack Obama has appeared on radio and tv, and unscripted, makes many, many gaffes. (many times misrepresenting his family's role in wars, or patriotism)

Larry Sinclair has acquired the attendance roll call sheet for Obama, which shows Obama was missing from the Senate on the one day the IL Senate met in November.

Barack Obama has not provided any records from his time in the IL State Senate.

Larry Sinclair has also submitted an affidavit to the Chicago Police in an effort to help in the investigation into the as of yet, unsolved execution style murder of Donald Young, the gay choir director from TUCC. Barack Obama, to my knowledge, has not provided any assistance to the Chicago Police Department in their investigation of Donald Young. There was a $1000 reward offered, by someone, to anyone who provided information leading to the solving of the crime, but as of late, nothing has been solved.

Larry Sinclair is an openly gay man. Barack Obama is not an openly gay man. (but he shops for arugula at Whole Foods? haha jk) Larry Craig is not an openly gay man. Jim McGreevy was not an openly gay man.

Larry Sinclair said that he is not racist, and as a gay man has suffered predjudice, and does not inflict that hate towards others.

Barack Obama belonged, for 20 years, to an Anti-American, anti-white, seemingly hateful church.

I do not get how some people can be so absolutely sure that these claims about Obama are untrue, to the point of making death threats to people who speak out against Obama. Sure, I can understand his wife believing the claims are false. But, do you ever really know anyone? Can you ever swear on your life that something is false. Why are people so 100% positive that Larry Sinclair is lying?

Do you think Larry Craig's wife thought he was trolling bathrooms for gay men? Or did Eliot Spitzer's wife know he was engaging in high priced call girls? Or any of the politicians below - do you think their closest family and friends knew they were having gay affairs, or paying for hookers, or sexually harassing interns, employees, and others?

New York Governor Eliot Spitzer Gary Condit Dan Crane Duke Cunningham Richard Curtis Mark Foley Gary Hart Walter Jenkins Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick Bob Packwood Paul E. Patton Fred Richmond Jack Ryan Arnold Schwarzenegger

Oprah Winfrey did a show once on African American men living on the down low.

This week the View did a special section devoted to African American women and HIV/AIDS. HIV/AIDS has become an epidemic among AA women - in large part due to cheating partners by men living on the down low.

(Of course, the fault is not entirely on men living in the closet - drug use, blood transfusions, jail terms, bisexual sex, women not insisting on protected sex, fear of the AIDS test, etc. are to blame as well - my point is that this is a real issue - and in many cases, a deadly one)

So, we have one guy, who has tried as hard as he can, to bring his truth to the American people. He wants Obama to admit to his drug use as late as 1999. He has been subjected to death threats as has his family, online harassment, constant phone calls of harassment, smears, and more. He has nothing to gain by coming forward.

Obama, on the other hand, has everything to lose, if these claims are true.

The more I learn of Larry Sinclair, and the more I learn of his claims, the more credible he seems.

The more I learn of Barack Obama, the more I learn about him as a man and a politician, the less credible he seems.

Yes, Obama is a US Senator. Yes, Obama was a state senator. But, the men I listed above were/are Senators' Governors, Representatives and Presidential Candidates too. And many of them had far more experience and accomplishments than Obama. And they all had a lot to lose.

I don't know either of these men personally. I only know what I have researched, and read, and seen and witnessed.

Even David Brooks from the New York Times sees The Two Obamas.

"But as recent weeks have made clear, Barack Obama is the most split-personality politician in the country today. On the one hand, there is Dr. Barack, the high-minded, Niebuhr-quoting speechifier who spent this past winter thrilling the Scarlett Johansson set and feeling the fierce urgency of now. But then on the other side, there’s Fast Eddie Obama, the promise-breaking, tough-minded Chicago pol who’d throw you under the truck for votes.

This guy is the whole Chicago package: an idealistic, lakefront liberal fronting a sharp-elbowed machine operator. He’s the only politician of our lifetime who is underestimated because he’s too intelligent. He speaks so calmly and polysyllabically that people fail to appreciate the Machiavellian ambition inside."

So, if you ask me, based on everything I know, I vote for Larry Sinclair.

At least he is honest about who he is.


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KEYWORDS: cocaine; crack; donaldyoung; larrysinclair; obama; sinclair; whokilleddonaldyoung; young
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1 posted on 06/20/2008 8:17:06 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Which liar is telling the truth? Man that’s a hard one.


2 posted on 06/20/2008 8:18:27 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: pissant

“Who has more credibility? Obama or Sinclair”

I find them about equally credible, actually in-credible.


3 posted on 06/20/2008 8:18:40 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: BossLady; Lancey Howard; txflake; Miss Didi; spacejunkie; TomasUSMC; Jet Jaguar

Fun with Barry and Larry Ping


4 posted on 06/20/2008 8:18:51 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

When Will the Media’s Investigations Begin?

The Official Un-Cut Version of Larry Sinclair’s National Press Club Presentation Video Is Located Here: http://www.larrysinclair.org/press.html

In this video Mr. Sinclair describes his allegations of drug and sexual encounters in 1999 with Sen. Obama. He presents enough information (names, phone numbers, dates, times, etc.) to allow the press to pursue their investigations into Presidential candidate Obama’s role regarding these allegations.

Mr. Sinclair gives enough information, in enough detail, to allow the hard questions to be asked of the Senator. He implies that he has more relevant information for the press should they desire it from him. Evidently, he has been advised not to disclose all that he has at this time.

http://zachjonesishome.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/when-will-the-medias-investigations-begin/


5 posted on 06/20/2008 8:20:13 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Resolute Conservative

They may be evenly matched, though sounding credible in a press conference, the edge definitely goes to Sinclair.


6 posted on 06/20/2008 8:20:59 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

I vote neither.


7 posted on 06/20/2008 8:21:58 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: WayneS

Still, you gotta be rooting for Sinclair! He may be a thief, but he ain’t a marxist. LOL


8 posted on 06/20/2008 8:22:54 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: mnehrling

I vote the MSM follow up on Sinclair’s phone records.


9 posted on 06/20/2008 8:23:51 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Well, normally I don’t lean “that way” but in this case?

Yeah, I’m rooting for Sinclair.


10 posted on 06/20/2008 8:26:42 AM PDT by WayneS (And now I shall return to my hovel and cling to my guns - but only until it is time to go to Church)
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To: mnehrling
I agree with your vote of neither. I put more faith in what my cat Stewie tells me, which is normally “Feed me or I will scratch you.”
11 posted on 06/20/2008 8:30:38 AM PDT by SledgeCS (Build the fence. Deport the Illegals. Sell all their assets to cover the cost.)
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To: pissant

Don’t expect our ‘Free & Robust’ press to do anything with this information; except cover it up.


12 posted on 06/20/2008 8:31:55 AM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: pissant

The obamedia needs to ask Bambi why the Larry issue is not on his fightthesmears page.

Also, I am sticking to my position that having him arrested was stoopid. It creates the appearance that he is soooo dangerous that he must be kept him incommunicado. Way dumb for the obamabots. Unless of course they can keep Larry in jail until November 5, which I doubt they will be able to do.

As for who is telling the truth, damned if I know.


13 posted on 06/20/2008 8:32:51 AM PDT by freespirited (A Democrat is a person who lives in fear that someone, somewhere is proud to be an American.)
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To: pissant
I do not like Obama. I will not vote for Obama. However, I find both Obama and Sinclair without veracity.

Obama has a website dedicated to crushing inaccurate statements and rumors about him and their are some rumors about him that are patently untrue. If what Sinclair said is true all Obama has to do is post copies of his cell phone records for himself and his associate that alleged took calls from Sinclair. That would destroy Sinclair in an afternoon if he is lying.

The Machiavelli in me thinks that the whole thing is cooked up to be shot down. After you shoot down a few falsehoods the people will not believe a new accusation that is true. The Clinton's were masters at this.

14 posted on 06/20/2008 8:34:42 AM PDT by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Which liar is telling the truth? Man that’s a hard one.
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Ridiculous. Sinclair was arrested immediately following his “press conference” on a fugitive warrant.
We don’t want that creep on our side.


15 posted on 06/20/2008 8:35:12 AM PDT by soupcon
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To: soupcon

The question is who has more credibility. Your answer is Obama? LOL


16 posted on 06/20/2008 8:40:06 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ArchAngel1983

They won’t even do the simple stuff, like check with the CPD about the phone records.


17 posted on 06/20/2008 8:44:39 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

bingo


18 posted on 06/20/2008 8:47:22 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: pissant

there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that Sinclar is telling the truth


19 posted on 06/20/2008 8:47:29 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

Well, I certainly have doubts, but the orchestrated campaign against him is highly suspicious.


20 posted on 06/20/2008 8:50:26 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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