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Voting 'no' on Hillary, Obama and McCain: Is this the year for 3rd party candidate?
WorldNetDaily ^ | March 24, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 03/24/2008 9:38:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

Many conservatives are feeling left out of the 2008 presidential race, with the likes of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama battling for the Democratic nomination and the GOP endorsement likely going to U.S. Sen. John McCain, who has worked with Democrats on campaign limits as well as amnesty for illegal aliens, and in 2004 actually was thought of as a possible running mate for Democratic candidate John Kerry.

Some prominent leaders, including Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, even have said they will not vote rather than vote for the liberal leanings of McCain.

So is 2008 the year when a third-party candidate would find some traction among those disaffected by the abortion, marriage and national security stances found in the records of the three front-runners left in the race?

Charles Lewis, national outreach director for Christian Exodus, is one of those behind the launch of the new Save America Summit website, and believes it's not only time, it's overdue.

"Even the national conservative pundits who have drunk the Koolaid have to say 'hold your nose and vote for McCain,'" Lewis told WND. "Not one of them recommended voting for McCain in a primary."

Among those joining in the effort are presidential candidate Alan Keyes, American Minute founder Bill Federer, Council for National Policy member Bob Fischer, Minuteman national executive Director Al Garza, Constitution Party founder Howard Phillips, Gun Owners of American executive director Larry Pratt, Minuteman Civil Defense Corps founder Chris Simcox, Operation Save America founder Flip Benham and dozens of others.

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KEYWORDS: 2008; christianexodus; constitutionparty; keyes; no; thirdparty
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To: Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator

Why is this now in “Bloggers”?


61 posted on 03/24/2008 11:21:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The first front in any war is the war of words.)
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To: roamer_1

Christians should have gotten behind Duncan Hunter instead of Huckabee. Hunter was closer to being a Reagan conservative than anyone in a long time. He had the Christian rights issues nailed down perfectly as well.

If you remember the value voters debate in Florida, it was almost a set-up to promote and elevate Huckabee’s stature.


62 posted on 03/24/2008 11:26:00 PM PDT by upsdriver (My kingdom for an acceptable presidential candidate!!)
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To: upsdriver
it was almost a set-up to promote and elevate Huckabee

It wasn't "almost," it "was."

63 posted on 03/24/2008 11:29:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The first front in any war is the war of words.)
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To: pissant

Agree with you on 2012 but right now, I am looking for a place for my vote in 2008.


64 posted on 03/24/2008 11:29:08 PM PDT by upsdriver (My kingdom for an acceptable presidential candidate!!)
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To: reagandissiple
America wants McCain over anyone else

Total BS ... what America wants is ANYBODY but Hitlery or the Obamanation ...

Oh and BTW .... nice born on date

65 posted on 03/24/2008 11:32:27 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence)
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To: EternalVigilance

And they blew it! Big time!

It takes more than being a pastor with flowery speech. If that was the main requirements, they could have backed Jesse Jackson.


66 posted on 03/24/2008 11:35:54 PM PDT by upsdriver (My kingdom for an acceptable presidential candidate!!)
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To: Ingtar

i believe that a third party candidate needs to get into the race BEFORE the two main parties have their nominees... come in as a real option, not just as a last minute alternative... a conservative third party ought to run no matter who the GOP candidate is... and more than one person ought to run in the third party primaries... get a few really good conservative third party candidates... it seems hard to do, but at the very least, one third party candidate ought to come into the race right away...


67 posted on 03/24/2008 11:40:26 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: upsdriver

Huckabee’s intellectual and experiential shallowness was on display in the Values Voter debate, when he had no clue what the Mexico City Policy was.

But the drones who were brought in just did as they were prepped to do.

Sad.

And the “leaders” who did it won’t even admit they made a mistake. Many of them are spending their time trying to figure out how to put enough lipstick on the McCain pig to make him acceptable to their constituency, instead of facing up to the truth.


68 posted on 03/24/2008 11:41:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The first front in any war is the war of words.)
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To: EternalVigilance

McCain could win only because the Democrats’ nominee will be just as awful. I really don’t care to see him win. I believe we will be able to fight and stop the Democrat led Democrats easier than the McCain led Democrats.


69 posted on 03/24/2008 11:48:18 PM PDT by upsdriver (My kingdom for an acceptable presidential candidate!!)
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To: roamer_1
This is paramount, as Huckabee's run proved- The Christians can haul 'em outta' the basement and get them seen, but they cannot provide a win for the candidate without the rest of the Conservative community behind them.

as a Christian, you had me pretty excited about your idea... until you pushed Huckabee... i don't see him as "the Reagan conservative" at all... to me, he is the non-thinking Christian's candidate... sorry for how that sounds... i'm just not impressed with him at all... i have received flack about that from some of my homeschool comrades because he has said he supports homeschooling... but that wasn't enough for me to give him my support...

70 posted on 03/24/2008 11:48:51 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: upsdriver
Christians should have gotten behind Duncan Hunter instead of Huckabee. Hunter was closer to being a Reagan conservative than anyone in a long time. He had the Christian rights issues nailed down perfectly as well.

Oh, I agree completely! But one must remember that the Christians, if left to themselves, tend to be factional conservatives (SOCONs), and without proper input from the other factions, they will vote primarily for their issues.

But I think they know that about themselves- Notice how they didn't hoist Huck outta' the basement until after Fred made himself completely unpalatable to them. They waited on the Republicans to raise up a Conservative- I am almost sure of it. When the Republicans failed to do so, they went their own way.

At the very least, I think Gingrich had a good idea. He suggested a partitioning of Conservatives within the Republican Party. While the party means nothing to me, the idea of an organized head to the Reagan Coalition is quite attractive to me. Without that head guiding the three factions, they remain separated. That weakness has been exploited time and again. Without a Conservative leadership, the factions are easily divided.

Not that I am against a Conservative party either (I am very much for it), but it's value, primarily, would be to form that leadership head- The rest just sorta' happens.

71 posted on 03/24/2008 11:50:17 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more.)
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To: latina4dubya

I don’t think he was pushing Huckabee at all.


72 posted on 03/24/2008 11:52:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The first front in any war is the war of words.)
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To: upsdriver
I really don’t care to see him win. I believe we will be able to fight and stop the Democrat led Democrats easier than the McCain led Democrats.

BUMP that.

73 posted on 03/24/2008 11:53:10 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more.)
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To: latina4dubya
as a Christian, you had me pretty excited about your idea... until you pushed Huckabee...

Please let me correct that perception:

I am not 'pushing' Huckabee. I was solidly in the Hunter camp until he dropped out, whereupon I settled into the Keyes camp. I am a Reagan Conservative, and will not support a candidate who does not embrace all three pillars of Conservatism.

What I had attempted to draw attention to was the unique and incredible power of the Christians who were able to singlehandedly haul a nowhere candidate out of low single digits and make him a contender. And that with but a third of their primary voting base. Whether one agrees with their choice or not, their political power seems evident to me.

74 posted on 03/25/2008 12:02:18 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more.)
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To: roamer_1

Yeah, I knew I was preaching to the choir! I agree too about a head to the movement. The one thing missing is a total lack of leaders within the conservative movement. There are plenty of foot soldiers just waiting for someone to come along and bring us all together.

Huckabee convinced some of them, it’s true, but he lacked the authenticity to attract the majority of social conservatives. btw, most of the SOCONS I know are also hot on issues like tax reform, defense, etc. In other words, Reaganesque.


75 posted on 03/25/2008 12:05:18 AM PDT by upsdriver (My kingdom for an acceptable presidential candidate!!)
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To: EternalVigilance
I don’t think he was pushing Huckabee at all.

You thought correctly. :D

76 posted on 03/25/2008 12:08:08 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more.)
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To: upsdriver
Yeah, I knew I was preaching to the choir!

;)

Nice to seeya btw!

The one thing missing is a total lack of leaders within the conservative movement. There are plenty of foot soldiers just waiting for someone to come along and bring us all together.

Agreed. That is because we have relied upon the Republican party apparatus... An obvious mistake in hindsight. Their leadership is against us, and has been since Reagan stepped down.

Huckabee convinced some of them, it’s true, but he lacked the authenticity to attract the majority of social conservatives. btw, most of the SOCONS I know are also hot on issues like tax reform, defense, etc. In other words, Reaganesque.

Agreed on all points. Huck's support, at it's core, was the dyed in the wool Pro-Life crew, IMHO. Normally the difference would not be notable, except with the candidates available, they had no where else to go. Would that they had lifted Hunter up instead- He was certainly acceptable. But they did not *sigh*.

The rest of us went no further, once the Reaganites were gone.

77 posted on 03/25/2008 12:20:12 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more.)
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To: Red Steel

There isn’t a “serious conservative 3rd party”. Period.


78 posted on 03/25/2008 12:35:38 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (As government expands, liberty contracts. – Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Content Provider
Natural Law (I think)

The Natural Law Partyparty started and operated by the followers of the late guru, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
Once the entire US electorate is able to engage in Yogic Flying, the "Maharishi Effect" will supposedly bring about true bliss and world peace.


79 posted on 03/25/2008 2:56:03 AM PDT by XR7
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To: EternalVigilance

It’s 1992 all over again except that Clinton and Obama are BOTH the 3rd party candidates. Unless the Dems find someone else that both sides of that party can all vote for, McCain will be the plurality winner.


80 posted on 03/25/2008 4:21:24 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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