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Heller: The Good Guys Shoot Back, With Effect
Leibowitz's Canticle ^
| February 6, 2008
| Leibowitz
Posted on 02/06/2008 5:22:32 PM PST by Bob Leibowitz
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This is the first complete and authoritative analysis of Heller's brief to the Supreme Court in pursuit of his Second Amendment case against the District of Columbia.
The Heller team takes on D.C., the American Bar Association, the Solicitor General and too many gun-grabbing groups to name.
The team does a superb job.
Heller: The Good Guys Shoot Back, With Effect
To: Filo
Ping for later. I’ve been waiting for these briefs to pour in.
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posted on
02/06/2008 7:31:34 PM PST
by
Filo
(Darwin was right!)
To: Bob Leibowitz
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posted on
02/06/2008 11:31:20 PM PST
by
neverdem
(I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
To: Bob Leibowitz
UPDATE: 100 Members of Congress will file an amicus brief supporting Heller.
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posted on
02/07/2008 6:08:08 AM PST
by
Bob Leibowitz
(Response, Free Republic, news)
To: Bob Leibowitz
Any idea which members?
Would love to see whether McManiac signs on.
For that matter, someone should start asking all the candidates where they stand on Heller...
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posted on
02/07/2008 6:10:29 AM PST
by
Abundy
To: Bob Leibowitz
After Kelo, I have little confidence in the SCOTUS arriving at the obvious decision.
To: Abundy
The only one I know of is Jo Ann Emerson of Missouri. The others will be apparent on Monday, when the amici briefs in support of Heller will be filed.
Meanwhile, very experience lawyers are saying that the Heller brief will be taught in schools for years to come, as an example of a terrific brief.
I found it to be a historical tour with all the very best arguments in favor of the Second Amendment we know.
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posted on
02/07/2008 7:57:02 AM PST
by
Bob Leibowitz
(Response, Free Republic, news)
To: Bob Leibowitz
It was definately a logical, concise and strong argument that was careful to limit SCOTUS' required decision-making to the issue at hand. (IOW, it allows SCOTUS to rule in favor of Heller without overturning Miller - one of the most import, and overlooked, parts of the brief.)
It will be a great example to law students of how to write for years to come.
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posted on
02/07/2008 8:08:48 AM PST
by
Abundy
To: Bob Leibowitz; Joe Brower
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posted on
02/07/2008 8:43:10 AM PST
by
EdReform
(The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
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posted on
02/07/2008 8:51:38 AM PST
by
Joe Brower
(Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
To: Bob Leibowitz
No. This overlooks the courts’ ever greater desire to create law rather than to interpret law. Esp. with the doddering Stevens and senile Ginsberg concerned abouit their “legacy” in their twilight years. I say Heller loses 5-4 or 6-3 with awful consequences.
To: Bob Leibowitz
Having read both, the Heller guys are clear, concise, and logical. The DC brief looks like it was written by a dyslexic 13 year old.
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posted on
02/07/2008 9:13:45 AM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(What would a free man do?)
To: pabianice
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posted on
02/07/2008 9:14:49 AM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(What would a free man do?)
To: Abundy
(IOW, it allows SCOTUS to rule in favor of Heller without overturning Miller - one of the most import, and overlooked, parts of the brief.) By my reading of Miller a favorable decision in this case would compliment, not overturn Miller. I take it that had Miller been present and showed evidence that a short barreled shotgun was indeed a useful militia weapon, they would have affirmed his right to possess it.
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posted on
02/07/2008 9:21:54 AM PST
by
MileHi
( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
To: MileHi
Everything from bare hands to F-22 Raptors could be said to have a "militia utility".
As it should be...
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posted on
02/07/2008 9:23:24 AM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(What would a free man do?)
To: Dead Corpse
It seems obvious. I read it that the Court was not at liberty to assume facts not in evidence.
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posted on
02/07/2008 9:30:56 AM PST
by
MileHi
( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
To: MileHi
Yep. Pretty much an early example of the Courts tossing out the “reasonable man standard” on the ash heap.
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posted on
02/07/2008 9:33:15 AM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(What would a free man do?)
To: Dead Corpse
Well, I have my fingers crossed on this one...
BLOATing while I wait.
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posted on
02/07/2008 9:49:04 AM PST
by
MileHi
( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
To: Bob Leibowitz
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posted on
02/07/2008 9:59:50 AM PST
by
beltfed308
(Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
To: Bob Leibowitz
Its bedrock principle is The Second Amendment Protects An Individual Right to Keep Ordinary Firearms, Unrelated to Government Military Service....I can't tell you just how much I totally disagree with this statement! The ideal ruling would include a militia paradigm and standardize weapon types found in the TO&E of an army or USMC infantry rifle platoon. That would put belt fed and small indirect fire (like the M203) on the table but exclude INDIRECT fire like the 60mm, 80mm and 4.2 inch mortars. And YES I do understand that the letters of marque as described in the Constitution will afford Bill Gates the right to go out and acquire an aircraft carrier. Just as Teddy Roosevelt no doubt used it to set up and provision his mounted regiment for the Spanish American War and his infamous infantry & cavalry charge up Kettle Hill
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posted on
02/07/2008 10:28:33 AM PST
by
ExSoldier
(Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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