Posted on 02/02/2008 5:16:12 AM PST by davidosborne
period. end of story.
W/O the 13 dixie states we LOSE.
free dixie,sw
perhaps i'll write-in Tom Tancredo's name, inasmuch as i KNOW him.
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Bill
we desperately NEED a STRONG conservative, rather than a "maverick" or "a taxatuecetts LIB" on the GOP ticket NOW & in the FALL.
this is important ONLY if the GOP wants to win the election.
speaking for me/mine, we will NOT vote for either of the current "front-runners", as NEITHER are real conservatives.
as a life-long Southern Baptist, i also do NOT approve of our preachers running for POTUS. Pastor Huckabee should be back in the pulpit where he belongs, imVho.
free dixie,sw
an even larger group won't work for or vote for McCain, as he is ANYTHING BUT a conservative.
all THREE are WRONG on the 2d Amendment, WRONG on PRO-life, WRONG on amnesty for ILLEGAL immigrants AND on a number of other conservative issues.
in other words, they are WRONG for dixie AND for POTUS.
those "stiff-necked" traditional southerners will "go fishing" on election day.
IF it's important to WIN in the fall, better find us "dixie folks" a CONSERVATIVE that we WILL wholeheartedly support & "turn out for".
FACT.
free dixie,sw
No thanks David. We’ve already cast our votes for Senator McCain!
Right on!
And, it would seem a lot of other Americans feel the same way! Except on FR.
We’ve already voted for McCain. But the article below explains who the REAL Mitt Romney is. You hear little about him. But it’s true.
Having served in the military, it’s very disconcerting to us. Being Pro-life, that is of the utmost concern too. He wouldn’t back track on allowing gays to serve openly in the military during a recent debate, other to then to say, he wouldn’t make changes during war. And “mumbled” something about the don’t ask don’t tell. It was less than an endorsement of the don’t ask don’t tell continueing. He was ALMOST caught.
We couldn’t believe the commentator missed it. But he IS caught here in his own words below in 2007!
There are so many lies out there about McCain. Sadly, conservatives are eating out of the hands of liberals in trying to take him down. As I said in another thread, many of us who once tuned in Rush and later Laura Ingram, have now turned them off. What liberals could never accomplish (the demise of conservative talk radio) they may have done to themselves. Disloyalty isn’t looked upon kindly. We need to win this election for the safety of this nation against VERY REAL enemies. God forbid the DemocRATs should win. God protect us all if that happens! But if Romney wins, in the final election he “would” have our vote (as would Huckabee, etc). You do NOT condemn in such a public manner, in the forum that Rush and Ingram have, our own parties candidates. It has been the epitome of ignorance!
McCain was pure class after his Florida win. We need to continue on with the process of WINNING the White house. Knowing someone who has worked with McCain for well over a decade, the rumors of a bad temper, are totally false. He is willing to listen to others. He can work across the aisle (gasp!... oh the horror!) His record is actually a very good one if anyone ever took a look at it, and in an effort to try to FIX problems he made decisions that were at times unpopular. And, (gasp again,) he ADMITTED it!
Having worked on POW’s, I’m sick to my stomach when I hear some of the crap I hear people say he did. All not true. Memories differ in situations like our POW’s went through. And I can assure you that his fellow POW’s have great regard for him, as do we. We honor his service. He’s gone on to serve our country honorably! Rush Limbaugh and others should have such service behind them.
He also has many of the MOST respected conservatives in our party on board his candidacy! What is happening is the most disgraceful thing that has ever happened during a Presidential race. But who should be surpised after what they put our President through! God willing, in our opinion, and a lot of other people, he “will” be our candidate and he will win!
At any rate, during our decision making on who our candidates are, here is information on Romney that we used to weigh our decision upon. As I’ve said, if for some reason Mitt Romney wins, or Huckabee, they would have our vote in the end. NEVER O’bamma or Hitlery! Also, When it comes down to it, he would listen to his military commanders! So you need not worry about tactics! He will not jeopardize his men in the field or this country he went through so much to defend!
Read on:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/20/AR2007022001266_pf.html
Mitt Romney’s Extreme Makeover
By Ruth Marcus
Wednesday, February 21, 2007; A15
Precisely two years ago, Mitt Romney, then the governor of Massachusetts but already eyeing a 2008 presidential bid, sat in the coffee shop of a Washington hotel, doing his best not to explain his views on abortion.
Romney was speaking to a few of us from The Post, and my colleague Dan Balz noted the similarity between Romney’s expressed views on abortion rights and the stance of another Massachusetts politician, Sen. John F. Kerry: Both men said they were personally opposed to abortion but did not support making it illegal.
From there, Romney proceeded to expound one of the odder positions I’ve heard in years of listening to politicians talk about a subject most would prefer to avoid: “I can tell you what my position is, and it’s in a very narrowly defined sphere, as candidate for governor and as governor of Massachusetts,” he said. “What I said to people was that I personally did not favor abortion, that I am personally pro-life. However, as governor I would not change the laws of the commonwealth relating to abortion.
“Now I don’t try and put a bow around that and say what does that mean you are — does that mean you’re pro-life or pro-choice, because that whole package — meaning I’m personally pro-life but I won’t change the laws, you could describe that as — well, I don’t think you can describe it in one hyphenated word.”
Got it? I didn’t, and I asked, “Do you support making abortion illegal? I’m not talking about what you would do as governor of Massachusetts.”
Romney: “But that’s the furthest I’m going to take you right now. I’m governor of Massachusetts, and I’m telling you exactly what I will do as governor of Massachusetts, but I’m not going to tell you what I’d do as mayor of Boston or a congressman or any of those positions.”
I reprint so much of Romney’s answer (you can read or listen to the full exchange online) because its baroque circumlocutions seemed to say so much about him. It was hard to know what Romney actually thought about abortion rights other than that this was a political minefield it was best to avoid stepping into for as long as possible.
But it was also hard to see how a man with deeply held convictions on abortion rights — either for or against — could take a position so calibrated and inconclusive. Listening to Romney that day was like watching a chameleon in the fleeting moment that its color changes to suit its environment. Indeed, several months later, after vetoing a bill to expand access to emergency contraception, Romney wrote in the Boston Globe about how his views on the subject had “evolved and deepened.”
Evolved, indeed. During his Massachusetts races, Romney paraded his conviction that “abortion should be safe and legal in this country” and promised that “you will not see me wavering” on Roe v. Wade.
Now Romney says he opposes abortion except in cases of rape and incest or to save the life of the mother, and supports overturning Roe. At the National Review Institute Conservative Summit last month — at the very hotel where he had told us of his commitment to not altering state law one way or another — Romney boasted that each time an issue involving reproductive rights came up during his governorship, “on every single one of them I came down on the side of respecting human life.”
Romney’s “Extreme Makeover: Political Edition” goes beyond abortion rights. Once he supported allowing gays to serve openly in the military and backed a federal law to prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation — not anymore. He’s gone from saying “I don’t line up with the NRA” to becoming, last August, a life member.
Romney told the Boston Globe in 1994 that, as a registered independent, he voted in the 1992 Democratic primary for Paul Tsongas because Tsongas was from Massachusetts and he favored Tsongas’s ideas over Bill Clinton’s. Appearing last weekend on ABC’s “This Week,” Romney offered a contradictory explanation: “When there was no real contest in the Republican primary, I’d vote in the Democrat primary, vote for the person who I thought would be the weakest opponent for a Republican.”
Surely a man with a Harvard MBA could do better than that. At the time of the primary, Tsongas was doing better than Clinton in matchups against George H.W. Bush. And Tsongas didn’t need Romney’s help trouncing Clinton in his home state.
Partial transcript. The rest can be found on the link due to the Washington Post request.
Mitt Romney grew up in a family that believed in legalized abortion as a way to keep women from dying of illegal abortions. I disagree, but I can understand how someone growing up in that environment would hold that view. He spent most of his adult life as a businessman and not a political ideologue. Most businessmen couldn't care less about the sexual preferences of their good workers. In trying to use his administrative skills to serve his country, Mitt Romney has had to make compromises for the sake of making government work better. He's not an ideologue and never will be. He's made mistakes in trying negotiate those issues, but I believe he genuinely wants to do what's best for American families and conservative Republicans.
No candidate is ever perfect, and 2008 has brought us a long list of candidates who are far from perfect. However, in a long list of candidates who are bad, John McCain ranks one of the two or three worst. Stopping John McCain is the right thing to do.
Bill
I don’t think anyone is not giving McCain credit for his military service and his bravery.
But that doesn’t qualify him to be president. He is just too liberal.
Senator McCain supports the ICC (where the International Criminal Court would be judging Americans). He also was part of the gang of 14, which has stopped President Bush’s judicial nominess for circuit courts, etc. from going to the floor for an up or down vote.
I heard a couple of McCain’s colleagues say on the radio that he went against the leadership, when the Republicans had the majority, including the culture issues.
John McCain is also the senator that liberal Democrats come to when they want a senator from the Republican side of the aisle. For instance: McCain/Feingold (limits free speech); McCain/Kennedy (amnesty); McCain/Lieberman (50 cents per gallon gas tax increase).
Senator McCain’s pro-illegal immigration stance would hurt our national security, as border security is national security. Known terrorists have been caught crossing our borders.
I agree with you. I was just saying it seemed like you were going on McCain’s “Support for the troops.” I was trying to provide a little amplifying detail to how much McCain’s “support” for us is “helping.” Not, that I’m advocating Hittlery or Bin Ladin...I mean Obama, but, I’d rather know my danger...ie We know they’re going to destroy the military; rather than McCain destroy the military in the name of “helping.” I agree with the grassroots effort... and I think that it needs to be in a wake up call to Mit or Huck.... and then that effort needs to be UNIFIED. Grassroots only works if everyone realizes the grass is greener on their side.
I don’t know, we can throw dirt at anyone running for President in this country. I’m sure with research we could even dig up on the greatest President ever...Reagan. Working accross the aisle... no problem. Work for everyone on the other side of the aisle....not so much. I don’t know to many Commanders that were jumping up and down when McCain wanted to declassify US interrogation techniques. McCain lying dormant on the Brady Bill (I found this out through research GunOwnersOfAmerica among others) prompted me to pull my membership from the NRA and further deepened my mistrust of McCain. And when liberals start calling someone a maverick (to paraphrase Ann) shouldn’t conservatives start to wonder? Why don’t guys like Peter Pace run?
It seems like no one can decide McCain Mitt or Huck....and since the conservative base is divided...the candidates just run amock like children when their parents’ aren’t watching. My opinion is its between Huck and Mitt. We need to hash these two out and pick the lesser of two evils. Which one hasn’t hurt us the most; which one is the most trustworthy.
Then we need to give the GOP the ultimatum... either pay attention or lose the support. We need to list the conservative base platform...maybe an FR referendum (ok so I’m new; I don’t usually have time to be on the internet and spent most of my time “conservative chatting” with friends...MWR is great) and list in order of importance and feasability what the conservative base stands for. If suddenly a large grassroots effort suddenly took hold (like shamnesty) “they” would take note. And finally (2012?) a candidate would run on our needs. Now, they might not fully support 100% of everything listed, but the top 10...hey I seem to remember someone saying something to the effect ‘you might not agree with everything I say, but if you’re with me 80%; I’m your man’
to reply to your comment on Mitt...”sometimes no news is good news” Especially with the MSM
I understand your frustration.. this IS the primary..... we need to push for the MOST conservative candidate IMHO..
Who do you support?
The media has focused on Florida’s primary, with its distorted perception created by GOP establishment money flooding the TV and radio markets. The state’s GOP establishment were also all piling on for McCain, Romney and Guiliani. In spite of having no money for media buys, Huckabee virtually tied Guiliani who spent millions. Huckabee showed his Presidential qualities in last night’s debate while Romney displayed the obvious psychological impact of his modest second place finish in Florida. These facts aren’t covered in any of the media networks, including Fox.
Congressman Hunter’s decision to withdraw and endorse Gov Huckabee was deliberately timed for his organization to be leveraged to maximize Huckabee’s Florida turnout and prevent a first place Romney finish. Had that occurred, Romney would have been anointed Ronald Reagan incarnate on Wednesday morning’s news shows making him virtually unstoppable. Senator McCain’s excessive liberal baggage makes him far easier to defeat on Super Tuesday. The psychological impact of Florida on Romney was evident during Wednesday’s GOP debates while Huckabee emerged as Presidential.
Significantly, Congressman Hunter did not endorse his Armed Services Committee counterpart in the Senate, and fellow Vietnam Veteran John McCain because of his past leadership of amnesty attempts for illegal aliens. Governor Romney has failed to influence the Bain Corporation, which he previously controlled, to drop its strategic partnership with Chinese defense contractor Huawei Technologies in a bid to buy U.S. defense contractor 3Com. Duncan Hunter endorsed Mike Huckabee as the “most strongly committed to strengthening national defense, constructing the border fence and meeting the challenge of China’s emergence as a military superpower that is taking large portions of America’s industrial base.” Huckabee has obviously emerged as the true conservative alternative for Middle America. VOTE MIKE HUCKABEE ON FEB 5TH
sorry my FRiend... trying to paint Gov. Huckabee as “just a preacher” does not sit well with most conservatives... you should judge him on his merits alone.. IMHO
David
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