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Vanity | 2/1/2008 | Richard Kimball

Posted on 02/01/2008 7:31:58 PM PST by Richard Kimball

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To: johnny7

Jeez!

If I weren’t ROFL at that pic, I would hit “Report Abuse”.


61 posted on 02/02/2008 8:43:49 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: InvisibleChurch

Thanks so much for posting this great photo. We miss him SO much.


62 posted on 02/02/2008 10:56:21 AM PST by CZB
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To: tear gas

“...I suspect that the Limbaugh types will join the cheerleading team before November even if McCain is the nominee....”

I don’t think there’s a chance in hell that Limbaugh will “cheerlead” for McCain. He might haltingly announce he’s voting for him, but that’s about it. McCain has stabbed too many conservatives in the back to have any cheerleaders among us. I would not vote for him under any circumstance but I know some conservatives will and I will understand why. But Rush jumping up and down for McCain—??? As the Duke once said, “That’ll be the day.”


63 posted on 02/02/2008 11:00:42 AM PST by CZB
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To: Cicero

“...I was a fan of Pat Buchanan’s for a few months. But it gradually became more and more evident that he was a nut case. In fact, I first began getting the clue when I had lunch with an associate editor of First Things around the time of the New Hampshire primary....”

Pat Buchanan is not a nut case.

It is true that he shares an anti-Israel bias that is actually commonly found among paleos of a certain age.

I grew up with such people and always split with them on the Israel matter.

But Pat is otherwise a brilliant guy who cares deeply about his country and has worked tirelessly for conservative causes including for Ronald Reagan.

He’s NOT anti-Semetic; he’s anti-Israel, which is quite a different thing. I do NOT agree with anything he says about Israel or our important relationship with them.

But this is just one matter among hundreds and on most of the others if not all he is brilliant and thought-provoking.

Of course he had no business running for president but that’s less his fault than it is the fault of our miserable electoral process that freezes out thinking people.

Whether they know it or not, today’s generation of conservatives owe Pat a lot for keeping the faith through many rough years and times.

Leave it to someone from the media to “convince” you that one of our best minds is a “nut case.” I worked most of my life in the media too. And Pat Buchanan has my complete respect except for a single issue. (And I wish I could say THAT about anyone running for president right now.)


64 posted on 02/02/2008 11:17:41 AM PST by CZB
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To: Richard Kimball
Ronald Reagan realigned the political parties. He managed to create a coalition of the existing left/moderate Republican hierarchy (the country club Republicans) while forming a new coalition of voters who had previously been unaligned or registered as Democrats.

What Ronaldus Magnus did was pull the party leftward with his so-called "big tent theory".

This coalition was comprised of religious and social conservatives, economic conservatives and small government libertarians. As much as anything else, his brilliance was about the fact that he was able to keep this coalition together. In the twenty years since Reagan left office, the coalition has cracked sometimes, but now it is rent asunder.

Of course! drifting leftward is a losing strategy. The authentic right noticed too late what ol' Dutch did, blinded as they were by his anti-communism which was his one saving grace.

There is little difference in the candidate platforms between Obama and Hillary. Both are socialists.

The author is too kind.

The Democratic race has become about identity politics and personalities. Many weak Democrats and independents are, I believe, uncomfortable with this situation, and are really considering changing parties.

Wishful thinking.

Karl Rove once said about disgruntled conservatives, “Where are they going to go?” In 2006 they went nowhere. They stayed home and the Republicans got creamed.

Karl Rove: poster boy for "big tent politics".

In 1992, Pat Buchanan shattered the Reagan coalition.

Uh, no. THAT honor goes to the Bush family. Bush I:"Read my lips, no new taxes". Buchanan pointed out that Bush squandered the legacy of Reagan when he broke that promise.

He had a lot of help from the first President Bush, and Ross Perot finished the job, but Buchanan was the initial architect.

Kill the messenger.

It wasn’t so much that Buchanan ran against a sitting president as the way he did it. Ronald Reagan ran against Gerald Ford in 1976 without damaging the party as a whole. Buchanan took discontent with Bush’s moderation...

Bush's "moderation"?!. Good one!

... and fanned it into an ugly party war. He attracted supporters, but alienated far more people than he attracted.

No the Bushes have done that, thank you. Keep on spinning. Everybody do the neocon rag...

When Buchanan left the party, most Republicans breathed a sigh of relief.

And got Bush II! A bigger government than the Clintons gave us! Hooray.

As a whole, the party decided that it was better to have Buchanan outside the house throwing rocks, than inside.

Well, the neocons did anyway. If you love big government conservatism then you loved Bush.

Buchanan went to Ross Perot’s old Reform Party, which immediately collapsed, because he did the same thing there that he did in the Republican Party.

The "party" had no real principles and therefore was doomed to collapse. One should say that W did to the republicans what Perot did for his party. Can't blame Buchanan for the last elections; it's all neoconism 101.

He alienated more people than he attracted. He lost all political influence, and became totally irrelevant. His supporters had no place to go. Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats believed that Pat and his supporters were worth the problems.

This former republican believes that W was and is not worth the problems. Welcome to McCain country, thank W and leave Pat out of it.

65 posted on 02/02/2008 11:53:21 AM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: JimSEA
However, the idea that you couldn’t even participate if you didn’t fit a certain “European” criteria which creeped into his campaign was something else to me.

Seeing as how under LBJ the immigration laws have been reconfigured to discriminate AGAINST European immigration, his Pro-European paean bothers me not in the least.

66 posted on 02/02/2008 12:00:15 PM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: Cicero
They were troubled by the accusations of antisemitism and went to their Jewish connections, who are not ADL types but sensible conservatives who work with Catholics and Protestants toward restoring religion in the public square. Not one of them was willing to support Pat, and it turned out that they were right.

I love the charges of anti-Semitism. I stopped listening when I heard many Jewish groups declaring the Gospels "anti-Semitic". When beating a dogma, I guess any stigma will do.

67 posted on 02/02/2008 12:02:52 PM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: CZB

True.


68 posted on 02/02/2008 12:06:18 PM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: TradicalRC
What Ronaldus Magnus did was pull the party leftward with his so-called "big tent theory".

See post #45.

69 posted on 02/02/2008 12:07:21 PM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: Huber

As Romney has become better known over the past year, his unfavorables have gone UP.

So has the percentage of the population that says it definitely will not vote for him. That’s now at 47%.. hardly promising.

Nor is he as unknown as you think. With 42% saying they have a favorable opinion of him and 48% unfavorable, only 10% failed to express an opinion of him to Ras.


70 posted on 02/02/2008 12:20:15 PM PST by freespirited (The worst Republican is far preferable to the best Democrat.)
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To: freespirited

If you are right, then that is all the more reason to shut down the McCain slime machine ASAP.


71 posted on 02/02/2008 3:53:01 PM PST by Huber (And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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To: Richard Kimball
I know the coalition can't continue to hold together much longer when the ONLY reason we have to vote for Republicans is that the Democrats are so much worse

The pieces and parts are still out there, waiting for a leader with vision to call them together. Conceptually, it isn't that complicated. But apparently we have no men of stature waiting in the wings.

None of the current candidates can authentically claim the banner of small, limited government--vigorous national defense--traditional American values--economic freedom--and most of all, the unabashed embrace of American exceptionalism.

Find me a guy who fills that bill and I'll show you a future two term president.

72 posted on 02/02/2008 4:10:23 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Richard Kimball

Very good analysis - I think you nailed it.


73 posted on 02/02/2008 4:15:03 PM PST by Conservatives_Unite
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To: Richard Kimball
I know the coalition can't continue to hold together much longer when the ONLY reason we have to vote for Republicans is that the Democrats are so much worse.

That reason gets less true every election cycle. The government grew more under Bush than Clinton.

74 posted on 02/02/2008 4:38:20 PM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
None of the current candidates can authentically claim the banner of small, limited government--vigorous national defense--traditional American values--economic freedom--and most of all, the unabashed embrace of American exceptionalism.

That's as concise and elegant a description of what many of us are looking for as I've seen.

75 posted on 02/02/2008 5:54:00 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Sure, they'd love to kill me, as long as they can do it without admitting I exist)
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To: TradicalRC
Yeah, and this is what creates the stick. There's a Federal bureaucracy that clunks along, creating regulations and increasing mandates regardless of which party is in power. I work in the fire service, and in between unfunded mandates from the state and Feds and the increasing reach of the Department of Homeland Security, some cities are going to "through the window" firefighting. The regulations are becoming so onerous that it's easier to let the building burn. Ten years ago I could outfit a firefighter for around $3000. That's bunker gear, helmet, boots and SCBA. Today, it's about $7000. The self contained breathing apparatus is over five grand of that, and it's shared across the three shifts, but with the two in two out rule (there must be four firefighters on scene before making entry) that's $28000 in stuff the guys are wearing before they even start fighting fire. The equipment is better, and there's been some inflation, but the majority comes from increased regulatory standards.

Unfortunately, the fire departments have brought this upon themselves. After 9/11, the Feds unleashed massive amounts of money in the form of grants, and departments scooped up the money while asking for more. The Feds complied, but the usual strings were attached. You take the money, they own you.

76 posted on 02/02/2008 6:07:30 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Sure, they'd love to kill me, as long as they can do it without admitting I exist)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“...None of the current candidates can authentically claim the banner of small, limited government—vigorous national defense—traditional American values—economic freedom—and most of all, the unabashed embrace of American exceptionalism.

Find me a guy who fills that bill and I’ll show you a future two term president....”

Rick Santorum.


77 posted on 02/02/2008 10:39:49 PM PST by CZB
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To: tear gas

There is no conservative to endorse.The Republicans running are Democrats with a defense tendency that is anathema to organizational Democrats. Other than on Defense these guys are all Democrats.


78 posted on 02/03/2008 5:50:25 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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