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RON PAUL WINS ANOTHER ROUND [so says a commie at The Nation]
The Nation ^ | 11/28/2007 | John Nichols

Posted on 11/29/2007 9:26:18 AM PST by nsmart

Arizona Senator John McCain tried to resuscitate his ailing campaign for the Republican presidential nomination by attacking Texas Congressman Ron Paul's anti-war stance during Wednesday night's CNN/YouTube debate.

But, as in previous Republican debates where leading contenders have stumbled in their attempts to attack the renegade congressman, it was Paul who ended up drawing the cheers of the crowd.

Playing his Thanksgiving visit to Iraq for political points, McCain tore into Paul for arguing -- as part of a discussion about spending -- that bringing the troops home from Iraq would save "a trillion dollars."

Just as former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani tried in an earlier debate to buff his national-security credentials by attacking Paul's suggestion that misguided U.S. foreign policies increased the likelihood of terrorist attacks, McCain attempted to burnish his image as a champion of the troops by attacking Paul -- and, by extension, all critics of the war.

Invoking memories of the American First movement's opposition in the late-1930s and early-1940s to preparation for the fight with Hitler and Mussolini, McCain declared, "it's that kind of isolationism that caused World War II."

That rhetorical flourish drew hisses from the Republican crowd that listened to the debate in St. Petersburg, Florida

But Paul did not need the audience to protect him.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenation.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: braindeadzombiecult; debate; mccain; paul; paulqaeda; ronpaul
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To: counterpunch

***The reason why GOP contributions are lagging behind Democrats is because most Republicans are still undecided***

Perhaps that applies in the Presidential primaries, but what about the Congressional races. The GOP is in poverty in regards to the Congressional races. I suspect a big portion of GOP contributors are fed up with the party over a variety of issues - Govt Spending, corruption, and border security. As a result, we have a demoralized base not willing to fight against the Dems.


101 posted on 11/29/2007 11:32:25 AM PST by Kuksool
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To: wideawake
If she doesn’t even know what NORAD’s duties are yet has the gall to criticize them, what is the point wasting time with her. Probably a typical HSW trying to split our side and pump nutty conspiracies.
102 posted on 11/29/2007 11:32:25 AM PST by mnehring (I am free not to support Ron Paul... Wow, I feel special...)
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To: trisham

“’m guessing the “n” stands for “not”.” get some new material.


103 posted on 11/29/2007 11:32:39 AM PST by nsmart
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To: nsmart
Sending in our entire military and dropping bunker busters and shock and awe (a form of terrorism, in my opinion)

Oh how nice.. our troops are the real terrorists. Typical.

104 posted on 11/29/2007 11:34:07 AM PST by mnehring (I am free not to support Ron Paul... Wow, I feel special...)
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To: nsmart

You have to say that a lot, don’t you?


105 posted on 11/29/2007 11:34:18 AM PST by counterpunch (Hillary'08 :: At Least She's Not Rudy!)
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To: nsmart

LOL! I’m here all week. Don’t forget to tip the waiter, and try the veal!


106 posted on 11/29/2007 11:34:40 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nsmart

Why don’t you try “I know you are but what am I” next time instead?


107 posted on 11/29/2007 11:35:08 AM PST by counterpunch (Hillary'08 :: At Least She's Not Rudy!)
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To: Allegra

The post you were referring to was the $4.2 mil one-day fundraising blitz to the Paul campaign, not this blimp business. You was wrong, dahling.


108 posted on 11/29/2007 11:36:09 AM PST by jmc813 (#1 in the hood, G)
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To: jmc813

Was the $4.2 million day September 11th, or Guy Fawkes day?
Everyone knows who donates to Ron Paul, and why.


109 posted on 11/29/2007 11:37:59 AM PST by counterpunch (Hillary'08 :: At Least She's Not Rudy!)
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To: nsmart
Bringing our troops home, especially the ones on their 3rd or 4th tour in Iraq,

Why did you say just Iraq. Most democrats say just Iraq.

McCain: ...And I want to tell you something, sir. I just finished having Thanksgiving with the troops, and their message to you is -- the message of these brave men and women who are serving over there is, "Let us win. Let us...

Would you force them to come home?

110 posted on 11/29/2007 11:38:42 AM PST by McGruff (A "Big Time" Fred Thompson supporter!)
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To: counterpunch
Was the $4.2 million day September 11th, or Guy Fawkes day?

I don't quite remember.

111 posted on 11/29/2007 11:39:33 AM PST by jmc813 (#1 in the hood, G)
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To: nsmart
Bringing our troops home, especially the ones on their 3rd or 4th tour in Iraq, cannot be linked with any other term than COMPASSION!

Good grief, that sounds like it came straight off of DU.

FYI, the majority of the troops would like to finish the mission and don't appreciate those with leftist views back home trying to speak for them. These folks over here are not quitters or cut-and-runners, despite whatever garbage the media back home may be spoonfeeding those who will take it.

Ask anyone. Its one of his primary support groups. And the donations are showing it.

Once again, that has been repeatedly debunked for the horsecrap that it is. You Paulies keep saying it, hoping that we can be cult-programmed, but we're more well-adjusted than that. The Military-Supporting-Ron-Paul-Myth is just that. A myth that the Paulies keep parroting, hoping they'll find someone gullible enough to buy into it. And I've asked "anyone." I work with the military, enlisted and officers alike. I have for a few years and have known many rotations. They do NOT support Ron Paul or any other cut-and-run surrender-monkey coward.

112 posted on 11/29/2007 11:39:54 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: nsmart
What was the purpose of shock and awe?

To demonstrate to the regime that they could not hope to defeat our troops in the field.

And which soldiers did I call terrorists?

The soldiers who took part in our Iraq operations, obviously. Our armor and our JDAMs did not deploy themselves.

The US broadcast to the Iraqi people on every available radio frequency and TV frequency that the bombardment was targeting solely the regime and not civilian targets.

And that is precisely what happened.

The people who are heartless are filth like yourself who call the troops that defend you "terrorists" and who criticize those for freeing the people of Iraq from a vicious dictator.

113 posted on 11/29/2007 11:42:22 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake; nsmart
Sending in our entire military and dropping bunker busters and shock and awe (a form of terrorism, in my opinion)

Damn. I didn't see that earlier. Thanks for catching that, wideawake.

THAT is a reprehensible statement. Disgraceful.

114 posted on 11/29/2007 11:42:32 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: Allegra
Do you expect anything less from the Paul camp. They don’t think it is right to criticize the neo-nazi stormfronters who donate to Paul or the Troofers he seems to court- after all, they all have the right to support who they want- but mention our troops and they are quick to accuse them of being terrorists.

That is one bass-ackward campaign.

115 posted on 11/29/2007 11:45:38 AM PST by mnehring (I am free not to support Ron Paul... Wow, I feel special...)
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To: Allegra
FYI, the majority of the troops would like to finish the mission and don't appreciate those with leftist views back home trying to speak for them.

I'll quote one soldier who I've known for years and who is currently serving his third tour in Iraq:

"To listen to these jokers you'd think we were all faggots, whining about running home to mommy."

116 posted on 11/29/2007 11:46:54 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: jmc813
It was Guy Fawkes Day.
Representative Ron Paul may remember Fawkes as a wildly successful fund-raising gimmick
We know what kind of people gave to Ron Paul on that day and why.
 
117 posted on 11/29/2007 11:48:18 AM PST by counterpunch (Hillary'08 :: At Least She's Not Rudy!)
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To: counterpunch
It was Guy Fawkes Day.

Why'd you ask if you knew the answer?

118 posted on 11/29/2007 11:50:56 AM PST by jmc813 (#1 in the hood, G)
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To: jmc813
You was wrong, dahling.

Perhaps I was, but I'm just not as obsessed with Ron Paul as his cultists are. It doesn't make him any less inconsequential.

And you "was" smarmy.

119 posted on 11/29/2007 11:51:37 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: Allegra
And you "was" smarmy.

Smarm from highly intelligent people such as myself is an attractive thing. Not that I need help in that area.

120 posted on 11/29/2007 11:55:26 AM PST by jmc813 (#1 in the hood, G)
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