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To: ravingnutter

Seems you can’t read very well. Say hi to Congressman Miller for me will you? Thanks. He should be voting on another cut and run proposal any day now.


14 posted on 11/13/2007 2:42:35 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

NRLC is giving up way too early. Howard Dean was 43% in the polls in Dec., and John Kerry was 13%.

Then John Kerry goes down to 4%, only 3 weeks before the primaries.


16 posted on 11/13/2007 3:15:07 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: pissant
I can read just fine, it is you who has a comprehension problem. It wasn't just Miller, it was a Congressional Subcommitte that concluded the DP-2 was conceptually flawed and a waste of money. And you apparently didn't read this part:

Boeing, Lockheed and Grumman did not invest in his concept of the DP-2 aircraft because they were skeptical of his ability to actually achieve success. Six years later, it appears the DP-2 program has accomplished very little.

And you ignored the testimony of expert witnesses, here are a few examples:

In summary, I wish to stress that the DP-2 proposal was summarily rejected by impartial engineers and scientists from government aeronautical laboratories of DOD and NASA repeatedly over the past twenty years, yet it was forcibly funded and undertaken at the insistence of congressional advocates, with no regard to the judgments of their own government laboratory experts. -Testimony By Mr. John Eney, Former Head, Aircraft Conceptual Design Group, Naval Air Development Center (NADC) and Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR)

With enough time, money, and application of state-of-the-art aerospace technology we can make almost anything fly. The real issues are whether or not the ultimate product is worth the investment and whether on not the Nation is willing to devote the resources to achieve the capability. In my opinion the DP-2 has failed both tests. duPont promises a product at an R&D price at least an order of magnitude below the multi-billions necessary to mature the concept, and the services say they don't need or want it even if can be built. - Testimony By Dr. William Scheuren, Former DARPA DP-2 Program Manager and former Harrier Test Pilot

While the DP-2 vertical-lift aircraft may be an interesting concept worth exploring, I do not believe the duPont company has the necessary technical expertise required for this project. While a flight control simulation model now exists, it has yet to be proven that it represents the real airplane. DuPont’s insistence in trying to fly the airplane within the current restrictions of the tethered area has resulted in several hard landings. - Testimony By Col. G. Warren Hall (ret.) NASA AMES Chief Test Pilot, Chairman, DP-2 Air Worthiness Review Panel

There are also Critical Design Reviews on that webpage for the last 20 years that all say the project is not feasible as designed and that DuPont does not have the expertise to make it work. In addition, there is this little tidbit in the Charter:

In addition to the serious safety issues that have been called into question regarding the management of the DP-2 program, the Subcommittee has learned that questions regarding duPont’s financial management of the program have also emerged. According to a 2004 Department of Defense audit of the company, duPont Aerospace attempted to misallocate at least some of the Congressional funding it has received. The audit found that duPont billed the government nearly $7,000 in unallowable costs, including $1,700 for polo-shirts with duPont’s logo imprinted on them, nearly $2,000 for an annual company picnic and more than $3,000 for a family vacation on a cruise ship.

You are just pissed because I outed him on this. Deal with it, the project is a total failure and deserved to be cut.

45 posted on 11/14/2007 6:18:23 AM PST by ravingnutter
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