[ThanhPhero]

Human beings can agree to norms of behavior if there is posited a superior promulgator and guardian of those standards, a standard against which each can measure others. Without that superior source no one can assume another’s morality. Again you would not have any basis for your own morality except that you are a part of a commonly religious society and others can assume something about your morality because they know that they subscribe to the same source. Anarchy does not work out. It is a great theory but must very quickly end in the strongest ruling by virtue of his strength. There is no real morality in paganism, real paganism, not the faux motherearthism of our modern “dissidents”. Because of that, pagans do not do trade very well. There is no superior guarantor that the standards are reliable. That is why the great Chinese corporations, huge as they are, are either family-only operations(among the overseas Chinese) or government/PLA corporations.

[AnotherUnixGeek]

Without that superior source no one can assume another’s morality.

No one can assume another's morality with a superior source either. This is why legal systems with enforcement are devised by all societies.

Because of that, pagans do not do trade very well. There is no superior guarantor that the standards are reliable.

If you really believe that business is done in Western societies by depending on religion as a "superior guarantor", then you know nothing of business. The massive collection of laws that we have relating to contracts and business agreements are a direct consequence of the fact that without the possibility of legal action, standards will not be reliable and business will not be conducted honestly. Religion is utterly irrelevant to this.

It appears that your arguments on this topic are as based in faith as your faith itself. I don't think this discussion is worth pursuing any longer.