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Ron Paul supporters advertising on Stormfront now?
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Posted on 10/23/2007 8:23:58 AM PDT by mnehring

Via Fullosseous Flap, the screencap doesn’t lie. Or does it? Click for full size.

If you want to see for yourself, it’s at the bottom of the thread here. Note that the “Ron Paul for President” text isn’t part of the ad; it simply redirects to the top of the SF thread. The ad is the graphic immediately below it, which points here, at a site that should be familiar to you by now. A serious, honest question for our web-savvier readers: Is it possible to do some sort of ad buy across a whole swath of online bulletin boards such that any mention of Ron Paul on one of those boards will automatically trigger placement of the ad? If so, it would absolve the November 5th people from the charge of deliberately advertising on Stormfront. Follow-up question, though: If it is possible, is it also possible to designate certain bulletin boards as no-go areas where the ad shouldn’t appear, even if Paul is mentioned? That would point back towards deliberation, which, let’s face it, isn’t all that unlikely from a site predisposed to “V for Vendetta” metaphors.

Let’s say, hypothetically, that the organizers of the November 5th fundraiser — or rather the Guy Fawkes Day fundraiser, as I assume they’d prefer it to be known — actually did choose to advertise on a white supremacist website. Will America’s Greatest Patriot still be accepting the funds raised from the event? We know that he’s capable of taking strong, principled stands about refusing money from unsavory influences. Presumably Nazis and Truthers also qualify as unsavory. Or are they just practicing their own brand of EVOL in the rEVOLution?


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: dajooooooooos; daviddukecandidate; nazi; neonazi; paulestinians; ronnazi; ronpaul; stormfront; whitesupremacist
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1 posted on 10/23/2007 8:23:58 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: SJackson; jimrob; Allegra; ejonesie22; lormand; wideawake

Ping


2 posted on 10/23/2007 8:24:31 AM PDT by mnehring (Who is Chris Peden? http://www.chrispeden.org/)
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To: mnehrling
Ruh-roh.

Guy Fawkes day, huh? Epic Fail Guy also wears a Guy Fawkes mask. Coincidence?

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3 posted on 10/23/2007 8:27:00 AM PDT by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: mnehrling
Your screen shot is broken.

Here is a nice pic


4 posted on 10/23/2007 8:40:17 AM PDT by lormand (Was once a union member and ex-democRAT, then came Reagan)
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To: mnehrling
Paulestinians are... what they are.

And Stormfront isn't even remotely the only unsavory connection, re: said [*kaff*kaff*] "conservatives."

5 posted on 10/23/2007 8:43:57 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: SJackson; Allegra; lormand; Petronski; drpix

Ping.


6 posted on 10/23/2007 8:44:50 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: mnehrling
Doesn't look like an ad, I think it's the link Stormfront has had there for awhile. That they support Paul isn't news, if he gets around to rejecting it, that will be news. White supremecists vote too, you know. Why should Paul reject their ideology like Reagan did. A short letter is all that's needed. He's no Reagan.

Some of the ads would work, though.

Mr. Nathaniel J. Friedman
August 23, 1980 Dear Mr. Friedman:

Just a line to thank you very much for your letter to the editor of the Los Angeles Times. It was kind and generous of you to do this, and I am most grateful.

It wasn’t until I left the South and was in New York that I learned the Klan had endorsed me. I immediately made it plain in a press conference that I do not want such an endorsement and that I repudiate it and everything the Klan stands for. I guess Mr. Young didn’t pay much attention to that.

Again, my heartfelt thanks.

Best regards,
Ron

-----------------

April 30, 1984

Dear Morris:

While in China, I have been distressed to learn that some individuals back home have questioned whether my views on the Ku Klux Klan have somehow changed since 1980. Nothing could be further from the truth.

In 1980, I said that I have no tolerance for what the Klan represents, and would have nothing to do with any groups of that type. If anything, my feelings on this subject have only grown stronger. The politics of racial hatred and religious bigotry practiced by the Klan and others have no place in this country, and are destructive of the values for which America has always stood. Those of us in public life can only resent the use of our names by those who seek political recognition for the repugnant doctrines of hate they espouse.

I firmly believe that there is no room for partisanship on this question. Democrats and Republicans alike must be resolute in disassociating ourselves from any group or individual whose political philosophy consists only of racial or religious intolerance, whose arguments are supported only by intimidation or threats of violence.

We must, and will, continue our unified rejection of such elements of hate in our political life, for while there are many issues which divide us, it is fundamental principles such as this which will always draw us together.

Sincerely,
Ronald Reagan

[The Honorable Morris B. Abram, U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, 1121 Vermont Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20425]


7 posted on 10/23/2007 8:54:35 AM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

That Paul is willing to accept support from neonazis isn’t news, and not surprising in and of itself. He is a Republican in name, and it becomes a problem if the left decides to tie it to Republicans rather than Paul. As an electoral nonentity, that hasn’t happened yet, but Republicans as right wing haters is a card the left would love to play.


8 posted on 10/23/2007 9:00:21 AM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: mnehrling
Racist scumbag David Duke supports Ron Paul, as well.
9 posted on 10/23/2007 9:00:59 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
From The Key Domino - The Iowa Straw Poll at RonPaulForums.

A lot of Ron Paul supporters are from stormfront. Can you find me another forum that has a thread over 1600 posts long about Ron Paul? I always like to link to sources.

He's right, there probably aren't many 1,600 post threads.

And yes, some Paul supporters objected to Stormfront articles being posted and linked. When it was posted, in July.

And yes, it's still there in October.

Aside from support for Paul, linking in that context provides recruits for SF as well. Article makes sense, I'll see what else they have to say.

10 posted on 10/23/2007 9:16:03 AM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: SJackson
"Isn’t it interesting how many of these purported Ron Paul Republicans are readers of PrisonPlanet and CrooksAndLiars.com?"

-- Charles Johnson, LittleGreenFootballs.com, 10/23/2007

;)

11 posted on 10/23/2007 10:46:27 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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EXCLUSIVE: SPECIFIC CONTRIBUTION BY LEADING NEO-NAZI TO RON PAUL CAMPAIGN IDENTIFIED

http://lonestartimes.com/2007/10/25/rpb1/

LONESTARTIMES.COM EXCLUSIVE!!!

Must credit LoneStarTimes.com!!!

That means YOU, mainstream media producer/reporter/outlet!

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A LoneStarTimes.com investigation has conclusively established that a leading figure in the American neo-Nazi / White-Supremacist movement has provided financial support to Ron Paul’s 2008 Presidential campaign.

The individual in question is Don Black, the founder, owner and operator of Stormfront, a “white power” website that both professional journalists and watch-dog groups have identified as the premier English-language racist/hate-site on the Internet.

Previous LST posts have focused on banner “widgets” appearing on the front-page of Stormfront. It is important to emphasize that these are NOT “advertisements” placed on Stormfront BY the Paul campaign, but rather publicly-available graphics that Stormfront’s owner has chosen to place himself, with links directly to Paul’s donation page.

Nevertheless, LST has in the past several weeks raised a series of questions for the Paul campaign; specifically–

  1. Can Paul confirm that the donation widgets appearing on Stormfront are the result of the site owner’s actions, not the campaign’s?
  2. Will Paul take measures to block Stormfront as a referring URL to his own website, so that no future donations can possibly flow into his campaign from a site that serves as the on-line nexus of neo-Nazism?
  3. Will Paul ask his own web-staff to trace past donations that were made by anyone arriving at his campaign’s webpage from Stormfront, so that these contributions can be rejected?
  4. Will Paul explore if there are any legal actions available to try to remove his donation widget from Stormfront, and if so pursue them?
  5. At the very least, will Paul personally state publicly, vigorously and unmistakably that he rejects the support of white supremacists, and that he will not knowingly tolerate their involvement with his campaign in any form or to any degree?

LoneStarTimes.com’s managing editor Matt Bramanti left multiple messages last week for officials in Paul’s national campaign press office seeking comment. None were returned.

In the interim, a number of grassroots supporters of Paul’s campaign– including many honorable and regular readers of LST– have argued that…

  • It is unfair to hold Paul responsible for receiving political support from racists/neo-Nazis if that support was unsolicited by Paul;
  • Paul hasn’t, in fact, solicited white-supremacist support; AND
  • Paul’s campaign has no practical way of knowing whether or not a specific financial contribution made has come from a neo-Nazi.

These abstract debates are now moot– a contribution to the Paul campaign by a known white-supremacist has been identified.

The evidence is as follows:

  • Black proudly and openly identifies himself as Stormfront’s guiding hand, and publishes a contact address on the Internet– PO Box 6637, West Palm Beach, FL, 33405
  • A search by LST of public databases indicates that there is only one “Don Black” residing in West Palm Beach, Florida, zip code 33405
  • A 7/16/01 USA Today article identifies Black’s wife as being named “Chloe”
  • That same article identifies Chloe as being the ex-wife of close Black associate and former “Grand Wizard” of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke
  • Minutes of a 9/7/07 City of West Palm Beach code-compliance hearing identify “Chloe H. Duke” as owning a residential property located at 203 Lakeland Drive
  • According to Federal Election Commission records, on 9/30/07 the Ron Paul presidential campaign received a $500 contribution from a Mr. Don Black, who lists his address as 203 Lakeland Drive and identifies his occupation as “self-employed/website manager”

In light of these facts, we believe our previously asked questions continue to have merit.

A final note– it is traditional in political campaigns for candidates to return contributions from “toxic” donors once sufficient public scrutiny and outcry has been generated.

The difficulty in this instance is that if Ron Paul returns these funds to Mr. Black, all he will have done is given a neo-Nazi $500 more dollars with which to spread his psychotic bile.

We would therefore like to suggest that the Ron Paul campaign donate Black’s $500 to any of the following worthy recipients–

  • United States Holocaust Memorial Museum ($500 would make Dr. Paul a “sustaining member”)
  • One Family Fund (which works to rebuild the shattered lives of Israeli victims of Arab terror; $500 would make Dr. Paul a “healer”)
  • Aish Ha’Torah (dynamic Jewish educational foundation; Aish donations are set according to funky Kabbalah-based giving levels–$18, $36, $180, etc.–but for $500 Dr. Paul could simultaneously become a “Friend of the Wall” and a “Gate of Wisdom,” which would entitle him to both a Sterling Silver Menorah bookmark with certificate of authenticity from the Israel Museum in Jerusalem, and a Western Wall Images CD with over 500 unique photos of life at the Western Wall– perfect “re-gifting” items for the fast-approaching Hanukkah season)

We try to be helpful.

Matt Bramanti, Managing Editor (Gentile Stooge)
David Benzion, Publisher (Z.O.G. Chapter #1948 President)
LoneStarTimes.com


12 posted on 10/25/2007 5:02:51 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: mnehrling

forgot to ping you to 12


13 posted on 10/25/2007 5:03:37 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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