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They're Conservative Now....But How About After The Election?
True Conservatism ^ | 10/23/07 | Robert

Posted on 10/23/2007 8:06:07 AM PDT by pissant

Republican presidential candidates held a presidential debate last night. Much of the debate centered around criticizing Hilary Clinton, but before they got to Hilary, they spent some time arguing over who is more conservative.

My problem is this: listening to them in the debate, all of the candidates sound good.

I know that Giuliani is too liberal on too many issues to earn my vote.

Romney, as the former governor of the liberal haven of Massachusetts gives me pause if for no other reason than he was elected in Massachusetts. I've heard many things from Romney that make me think he would be a good president - better than Giuliani, anyway (or anyone the Democrats are running).

Thompson looked good...then he actually entered the race, at which point it became hard to tell just what he stands for. He may make a good conservative candidate, but that has yet to be seen for sure.

I've heard some good things from McCain during the campaign that make me wish he were consistent enough to earn my vote. However, he co-sponsored the McCain Feingold Act, as well as the recently defeated immigration bill. I have a lot of respect for John McCain - it takes a lot of courage to go through what he went through in the Vietnam War...but his record just isn't conservative enough to earn my vote.

Duncan Hunter looks like the best candidate to me...the primary problem is that he's largely an unknown: he doesn't generate the type of press that big names like Giuliani, Thompson, and Romney do. Hunter has been consistently conservative on a range of issues, and I believe that he would make an excellent president.

Personally, I have a problem with what has been going on in the conservative camp. The candidates are trying to out-conservative each other, each trying to pass himself off as the most conservative candidate. Basically, they're trying to out-Reagan Reagan (whose name was mentioned multiple times during the debate).

Ronald Reagan was a man who stood for conservative values in the face of harsh criticism. He stood up for his beliefs, unafraid and unashamed to stand up for his beliefs. This is what America needs in a president.

But this election is not just about having a candidate who knows what he believes and will stand up for it. This election is about America's future, and just what course the nation will take. Will we become yet another bastion of socialism, a nanny state destined for failure, or will we stand up for the true value of the individual, knowing that the feel-good option is not always the right one...or will we opt for the status-quo of straddling the fence, halfway between what we need and what feels right?

I think Duncan Hunter is what America needs. He will stand up for conservative values in the face of criticism; he has shown this in the past. In order to successfully move forward, we need to look at the values and the policies that have made the United States the world's superpower. Socialism didn't get us to where we are today. The United States of America got to where it is today through what is known as the American spirit: the willingness to buckle down and work hard, knowing that through hard work and perseverance you can be successful.


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1 posted on 10/23/2007 8:06:08 AM PDT by pissant
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To: 007girl; 230FMJ; abigailsmybaby; absolootezer0; afnamvet; Afronaut; airborne; ajolympian2004; ...

DH Ping


2 posted on 10/23/2007 8:08:35 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Road to NH conversions don’t impress me much. There are only a couple of men in the race who have had the courage to consistently stand by their convictions and they aren’t in the “top tier”.


3 posted on 10/23/2007 8:29:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: cripplecreek

The standard model of veering right in the primaries then back to the center for the general did NOT include Ronald Reagan and it will not include Duncan Hunter.


4 posted on 10/23/2007 8:33:49 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

GENERALLY candidates in the Republican Party swing to the right in the primaries, then swing to the left in the General Elections. The Opposite occurs in the Dem Primaries.

AFTER the election is anyone’s guess with a few exceptions.
Hunter is a rock soild conservative. Thompson is probably a Bush type “moderate”. Ditto for Romney and McCain.

ALL the Dems are libs but Hillary is far ahead of the pack in left-handedness and as committed to a Communist agenda as Hunter is to an American conservative one.


5 posted on 10/23/2007 8:40:36 AM PDT by ZULU (We)
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To: ZULU

Hillary is going to get crushed. He speeches make John Kerry sound talented.


6 posted on 10/23/2007 8:42:14 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Whose kids? Very cute.


7 posted on 10/23/2007 8:47:18 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: pissant

I hope so.

I heard that she got chewed up in debates when she ran for Senator last time in New York by her opponent, but it made no difference there. Like “KENNEDY” in Massachusetts, “CLINTON” in New York is equivalent to CAESAR in Ancient Rome, or CZAR in Russia. Hillary doesn;t like debate. She likes scripted interviews.
Even JulieAnnie would chew her up and spit her out.

Hopefully REAL America will see through this witch.

Did you see that idiot Obama standing up while the National Anthem was being played? He just stood there with his hands down. Even Hillary was smart enough to put her hand on her heart (or where a heart would be if she had one). (FOX News this morning.)


8 posted on 10/23/2007 9:00:50 AM PDT by ZULU (We)
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To: ZULU

Yet another reason the great black hope stands no chance against the shrill harpy.


9 posted on 10/23/2007 9:02:25 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Greg F

I do not know. But they are wise beyond their years. LOL


10 posted on 10/23/2007 9:02:58 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

No. I think she has it pretty well sewn up.

Any serious competitor would get a terminal case of Arkancide.


11 posted on 10/23/2007 9:05:54 AM PDT by ZULU (We)
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To: pissant; cripplecreek

Thanks for the ping. And cripplcrik’s comment bears repeating:

Road to NH conversions don’t impress me much.


12 posted on 10/23/2007 10:15:46 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
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To: All

Each and every true conservative should support Duncan Hunter NOW!

It’s still early.

Don’t complain about RINOs later, if you support them now.


13 posted on 10/23/2007 10:15:57 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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I have read that McCain wanted to change the GOP platform from pro-life to pro-”choice.”


14 posted on 10/23/2007 10:25:14 AM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: pissant

I think Hunter is the only one who would be conservative after the election.... even Thompson.


15 posted on 10/23/2007 10:29:37 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: ZULU

>ALL the Dems are libs but Hillary is far ahead of the pack in left-handedness and as committed to a Communist agenda as Hunter is to an American Conservative one.<

And the American people are starving for such a candidate as Duncan Hunter to lead our country back to prosperity, sovereignty, freedom, family and decency, where people choke up with pride when the American flag goes by, and at the sound of our air force cadets doing maneuvers overhead. God bless America. God bless Duncan Hunter!!!


16 posted on 10/23/2007 10:55:09 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Sun

I have read that Fred would have solved that for McCain. He didn’t want a platform in ‘96 I think. No platform, no problem. I wonder if the Republicans will have a platform this year? Fred needs to settle in. What’s with all the “fear” silliness, it’s embarrassing. I would think abortionists would fear Huckabee or Hunter if they were going to be fearing a candidate. Why did he say that they feared him? For a few ancillary votes he made in the senate? He at least will give them 50 different elections on abortion.

Standing in front of national audience, looking like Carl from “Sling Blade”, and talking about people fearing him is going to turn voters off. He may be the eventual nominee so I wish he would chill with the smart-a$$ed and “ignorantly arrogant” commentary.


17 posted on 10/23/2007 11:22:21 AM PDT by WildcatClan (DUNCAN HUNTER - The only candidate that can beat Hillary!)
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To: pissant

On The Issues....duncanHunter_logo

FAIR & EQUITABLE TRADE

Fair Trade, Not Free Trade = Jobs / Packed House in Mission Valley

China Cheating  on Trade / America is a GREAT Nation

SECOND AMENDMENT

Glen & Helen Show / CA Bullet Serialization / A Keyboard and a .45 /Armed & Free

ECONOMY & TAXES

Address to Fair Tax Rally 05-15-07 / Address to CPAC / Fiscal Conservativism

CONGRESSIONAL RECORD

Iraq Resolution / Hunter vs. Democrats / Surge is Working

Senate Amnesty Bill / Amnesty Fails / Amnesty Fails Again  / Hunter Vs. Murtha

LEGAL REFORM

Gonzales Firings / Pardon Scooter? / ”Fairness” Doctrine

Border Agents Compean & Ramos / Defending Border Agents

ENDORSEMENTS

Appeal to Conservatives / General Chuck Yeager / Conservative Voice

Ann Coulter / Magnificent! / Favorite

Announcement – Part 1 & Part 2 / Music Video On the Road to the Oval Office

Conservative Case / A Fresh Face / Blog Collection / Constitution Party / Grassroots HQ

EDUCATION

No Child Left Behind

HEALTHCARE

Ronald Reagan Health Care / ‘National’ HealthCare / “One step closer to socialism”

IMMIGRATION

Border Enforcement is Homeland Security / NAFTA / Secure Border

Building a Fence / “Jobs Americans won’t do”? / Wake Up America 07-19-07

Enforce the Law / No Amnesty / Party of One / Ted Hayes

SAFETY & SECURITY

Dubai Ports / Cooking with Hunter / War On Terror / To America’s Critics / JFK Plot

Mark Steyn on 1986 Amnesty / Firefighter’s Forum / CSIS Forum / Katrina Summit

FAITH & VALUES

Blogs for Life / Judicial Appointments / Right to Life Rally / Hunter's Faith

Terri Shaivo / Mt. Soledad Cross  - Flyer / Roe vs. Wade / Hate Crimes

INTERVIEWS

Dennis Miller (June 1st – 3rd Hour) / Michael Illions

Roger Hedgecock (4/6, 4/24, 4/25, 6/8, 6/29, 7/2, 7/17, 7/19)

Laura Ingraham – Part 1 & Part 2 / Steve Malzberg 06-19-07

Brian Preston – Hot Air / William Gheen - ALIPAC

WRKO Pundit Review Radio / Polipundit Radio / Tom McLaughlin

Kevin McCullough – Musclehead Revolution / John Hawkins

NHPR’s Laura Knoy on The Exchange / Irving Baxter

WESH – Orlando (Conversation with the Candidate) / Wolf Blitzer

 Hardball 07-30-2007 / Hardball - Al Sharpton / George Stephanopolis

 Charlie Rangel – Part 1 & Part 2 / Dennis Kucinich – Part 1 & Part 2

Glenn Beck / JD Hayworth 1 & 2 / Tom McLaughlin / Neil Cavuto

DEBATES

Reagan Library 05-03-07 / After Interview

South Carolina 05-15-07 / Fox Interview

New Hampshire 06-05-07 / Spin Room - NH/ Lynne Hunter

Iowa Presidential Candidate Forum 06-30-07

Iowa 08-05-07 / Hunter vs Paul / After the Debate / De Moines 07-06-07

POLLS

Hunter Beats McCain / Maricopa County, Arizona 01-13-07

Spartanburg, South Carolina 03-01-07 / SC GOP Conventions 04-16-07

Anderson County, South Carolina 04-17-07 / Free Republic / Coryell, Tx / Texas Win

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The Right Balance hosted by Greg Allen / Still in the Race / Duncan D. Hunter

 


18 posted on 10/23/2007 12:05:30 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: WildcatClan

The more I learn, the more I realize how proud we can be that we are supporting DUNCAN HUNTER!


19 posted on 10/23/2007 3:44:23 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: RasterMaster

I had the pleasure of having dinner with Duncan Hunter
on Sept. 15th in DC after the GOE3 rally.
He was great to talk with and a truly decent guy.
I’m supporting him 100% for our next President.


20 posted on 10/23/2007 6:38:19 PM PDT by Yorktownpatriot (Greetings from Yorktown..the cradle of our Republic! Let's keep it!)
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